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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2010, 07:13:47 PM »


Dear Jon,

Please post the pics., meant to watch but was delayed.

Regards, Bernard

Dear Colin,

Which Govt. do you mean? 'Our Tone/Broon Govt.' set to and did it, it just carried on unfortunately. What a dispicable shower the last lot was... at least this lot were voted in. B.
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2010, 07:15:24 PM »

Both lots, one caused the problem, the other has made things worse.

Unfortunately, voting people in doesn't mean you get competence along with it.

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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2010, 07:24:18 PM »


Dear Colin,

In fear of getting into trouble over this, Labour started it, the others just went on with it - once started into the system it can't be stopped. She is as we all know 25 yrs. old, and that is a good operating life.

However, surely, the most important thing is not what has been 'lost', but what is she going to be replaced with.

This is way off Topic, and that is all I will say. All else is to Posters own risk!

Regards, Bernard
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2010, 07:41:13 PM »

The US Navy reckon to get 40+ years of service out of their carriers!
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2010, 08:53:51 PM »

but then how many of us would scrap a perfectly good vehicle after spending vast sums to overhaul it to scrap it without a replacement ready for it ? . the so called elected party / parties arent doing what its public see fit or want to happen in order to defend our island ! . im not able to work out how to post from phone till later sorry . jon
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2010, 01:04:37 PM »


Dear Colin and Jon,

40 yrs. is pushing operating effectivness a touch? It is a bit like brooms... how many new handles, how many new brush heads? Granted the hull is singular, and as with all things - even modern vessels - improvements are made all the time.

As to the infinite wisdom of the Navy Board and Govt., well, maybe the former were misled into thinking there would be replacements, and the latter then became caught up in the World recession and bailing banks out. All in all I suppose it's all down to timing... but that doesn't excuse not giving the RN the basic needs. Mind you, who knows what deals have been done 'elsewhere' to balance things out?

Rergards, Bernard
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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2010, 05:22:27 PM »

One would hope that any navy would get more than the 'standard' 25 years expected from a working commercial hull, after all they have infinitely more money 'thrown' in their direction (OK, so where government money is involved there is a high percentage of waste and the cost of everything is double that of the real world), but a commercial hull doesn't get a 6 month refit every two years...... a 5 minute drydock once every 5 if lucky, plus they are run on a shoe string of resources both financial and manpower wise between then, and of course they only 'work 5 days a week too most of the time!!
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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2010, 08:16:27 PM »

the ark may well be twenty five years young , but has nobody pickec up on the fact that she came out of a big refit only a matter of weeks ago that cost 12 million pounds , that was to make her usable for the next 4 years . NOW WHOS WASTING MONEY ?
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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2010, 11:33:03 PM »

September 6th 2010 Ark coming out of drydock at Pompey having nearly finished a refit.
What a waste.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2010, 10:15:58 AM »

my sentiments exactly . its this current party of jokers that keep on we have to save money as a nation , bet they still get a pay rise while the rest of the country is in fear of loosing their jobs , or have already no work so on the bread line !
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2010, 01:45:30 PM »

Yep, but have you noticed, when you turn a light off, the current stops flowing??

  Regards  Ian.
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« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2010, 01:11:34 PM »

It was a cold day indeed, in more than one sense, but politics aside for a minute....















Heres hoping that any future threats are tempered by the 'bean counters' on their side...!
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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2010, 11:04:57 PM »

And now Illustrious is due for the chop in favour of HMS Ocean. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-12001932

I think some on here have listed Ocean's basic shortcomings apart from her slow speed. I believe she was originally due to be replaced shortly until the Defence Review came along.

Maybe the Navy should just buy a few obsolete car ferries and have done with it.  :((

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Re: Farewell Ark Royal
« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2010, 11:14:35 PM »

I may be wrong but.....
I am sure the lifts are bigger on the ocean than illustrious
That may be why we are keeping ocean.

The Apache helicopters made by Westland are the only apaches
In the world for use off carriers hence their rotor blades fold up.
The apache has a long length so may not fit on illustrious's lifts

Would make some sense then
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« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2011, 02:37:46 PM »

I thought they were keeping Her until the queen was ready. Has something changed??
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2011, 04:20:04 PM »

Slightly off topic but could you give details of the vessel with the name "Cameron" on it shown in last picture. PM if you like.
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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2011, 04:22:57 PM »

Hmmm...with that name, and in a rich Tory blue, maybe that's the replacement?!  %%

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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2011, 04:43:02 PM »

Naw, they`re not getting it back ! {-) {-) Oh I see what you mean, DAVID Cameron, no relation. I thought the blue one might be good for my next Springer barge seein`as that it has MY name on it. %)
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2011, 05:43:11 PM »

arrow5,
The Cameron is an exRmas Powered Mooring Lighter, the same hull as the RMAS Moorhen/Moorfowl but with an extra deck added for accommodation.
She is now owned and operated by Briggs Marine

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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2011, 08:48:08 PM »

she has been moored around by the wight link vehicle ferry terminal portsmouth  over christmas , see if i can get moor photos in the morning should people want them ? jon
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« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2011, 11:22:18 AM »

Slightly off topic but could you give details of the vessel with the name "Cameron" on it shown in last picture. PM if you like.


A few photos of Cameron, one taken on the day, and the rest up close for rust reference...









Hope this helps...
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« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2011, 12:28:17 PM »

Thank guys, I`ll look up the Briggs Marine website. Wonder what she is doing so far south?   Details of rust eh ... planning something are we?
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« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2011, 01:21:58 PM »

Thank guys, I`ll look up the Briggs Marine website. Wonder what she is doing so far south?   Details of rust eh ... planning something are we?


I am planning a pristine paint job..... followed by lots of rust and inground deck dirt. On which model??? Why, all of them :}
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« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2011, 04:57:43 PM »

Just the way it should be..no just the way it shouldnt be ...but is O0 {-) :}
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« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2011, 05:02:46 PM »

There are plans and a hull for RMAS Moorhen from Model Boats magazine I think.

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