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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2012, 05:54:20 PM »

Sensible stuff still to follow... now for an update on the Giant Squid. Progress is rapid, with most parts reaching the molding stage over the next week.












The main body parts will be glass fibre while the tail ( now removed from the after body ) and tenticles will be molded in Polyurethane Rubber or Silicone Rubber, depending how our initial molds go.
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2012, 06:01:27 PM »

I have been painting parts of a thirty year old Mixing Desk gloss black over the last couple of days, and as is now tradition, I emptied the contents of the airbrush over the Nautilus. This time applying the gloss black to all currently highlighted edges, rivet detail and recesses. The effect is pretty good and follows a light application of gold 'Rub-n-Buff' on to cutting blades and hatch covers.
The photos show the model in natural light, illuminated by camera flash and by a strip light. Useful, but not the final scheme..









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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2012, 10:47:44 PM »

Nice work!!! Really nice!!! :-))
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2012, 11:29:36 PM »

If you pipe air through the tenticles, will they flail around on the water?

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2012, 09:44:07 AM »

If you did that to anyone, they would flail around in the water!
We are using bent rods inset inside the tenticles, inside silicone tube, then rotating the whole lot with a geared motor. This should look random, hopefully..
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2012, 05:47:44 PM »

Yesterday was the day to cut out the protective outer Raker parts which cover the now smaller hydroplanes. My chosen material was 3/16" Tufnol sheet. Nasty, smelly, but high strength stuff. Bandsawed and sanded to about the right size.





The Milliput cutters/Rakers are now finished and awaiting trimming also. I intend to cut into the existing material in the model and screw the new Tufnol parts into place. The exact details I have yet to work out!


 I have also fabricated from thinner, laminated Tufnol the support bar for the prop ring that has been missing since the day I aquired the model. It just awaits final trimming and pinning to the model.




The final two images show the different paint schemes port and starboard. Port side is my prefered scheme while Starboard is a typical 'rust' scheme. Would a troubled, mad scientist design a submarine that harnesses the power of the Sun/Sea and then make it out of something that rusts? Methinks not!
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2012, 01:22:04 PM »

Whoops, left the water on down the clubhouse :embarrassed:

I was bored, waiting for chicken to cook...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #82 on: January 16, 2012, 06:05:26 PM »

Sunday spent molding. Me and Mark on fibreglass, me and John on rubber bits.













Side one completed...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #83 on: January 16, 2012, 06:08:49 PM »

Rubber bits, a mixture of silicone mold and polyurethane rubber squidly bits!



















Tentacles coming out of the molds tonight...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #85 on: January 16, 2012, 07:31:23 PM »

Nice work on that squid. What size is it, I think you could sell these you know if you were willing to mould a few.

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #86 on: January 17, 2012, 09:16:31 AM »

The subject has come up, my idea was to jump on the mold when finished, I may well be over ruled on that one!




We would have to perfect non-stick tentacles first,'They Grip, They Stick, They Haven't Cured Properly!!'
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« Reply #87 on: January 17, 2012, 07:57:47 PM »

at least if you were able to sell a squid or three it would help with the costs incured in your project !
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2012, 09:40:07 AM »

We are becoming squid molding experts we are :-))

This last couple of weeks we have learned not to de-mold the PU rubber to quickly, cos it stays sticky. Looks like it needs a period denied of oxygen to cure properly. We have learned that a 2oz lay up is enough for a small mold in fibreglass. That you can use PU rubber pigment in polyester gelcoat without ruining everything. That the PU rubber tin really needs stirring up before use, cos there is a white 'sediment, in the last third of the tin which has made the latest molds look like plasticene. We can use tinned copper wire in the tentacles to pose them. You cannot 'paint PU rubber over an already pre-molded tail, cos it runs and it stays sticky ( see above ). Every mold is hit or miss as far as getting rid of all the air bubbles, but we can use the excuse that a) its a 'mutant squid' and b) its been attacked by a giant shark...anyway, the photos :-)















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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2012, 09:48:25 AM »

Back to the main topic, Nautilus. Last night I proceeded to hack off more of the original model, now I know how I will hold on the Rakers ok2. Photos to follow...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2012, 06:45:09 PM »

The Rakers etc are going to fit onto 1.5mm Stainless steel rods, poking out from the gelcoat moldings on the side of the model. The Tufnol Rakers will be drilled to accept these Stainless parts and the whole lot will be expertly filed to fit. I am confident in this as I did it last week...


















The first job was to drill the holes in the Tufnol, this I did by marking, in pencil, the angle through the Tufnol, then laying the item on a flat surface, using the flat surface in front of the job to visually ensure my drill was parallel with that flat surface. Periodically checking, by looking down the drill bitt, that I was following the pencil line.
Next, a Stainless Steel right angled bit was fabricated, the Tufnol offered up to the model, and the first pilot hole drilled. The Stainless was fitted into the hole in the Tufnol and the sub, pinning the job in place, allowing me to drill the second hole with ease.
Two lengths of Stainless Steel were knocked into place, following a bit of Cyano application, left to dry and then test fitted. Nice....except, one must be jolly careful when removing the Rakers, as pulling them off unevenly results in the cracking sound of Gelcoat fracturing O0. Only happened on one pin out of eight.
The final picture shows the, now fitted prop ring support, also from Tufnol.
The Milliput Cutters still need epoxying into position and filling, job for another day.
Three of the Hydroplanes are now showing up as crooked, the good news is that one of the support tubes for these dropped out recently (complain to the previous owner!), so they are all coming out to be re-bonded, straight this time :-)
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #91 on: February 02, 2012, 04:00:59 PM »

Time for a new stand for the model, so for a bit of inspiration, a trip to the Eastney Beam Engine House. Open on the last Saturday and Sunday of the month, and its free, and its warm!
So for a bit of Steampunk reference....





























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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #92 on: February 02, 2012, 04:05:33 PM »

And then B&Q withdraw all their plywood from sale! Probably a good thing ;)
Early lighting test for Nautilus using LED Strip.

I will be using a Maplins RGB Lighting Controller to provide three channels of variable lighting effect, not strictly movie accurate, but it should look cool. Hopefully there will be slightly less light bleed out of every hole in the model when rigged up properly.
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #93 on: February 02, 2012, 05:25:58 PM »

The CR Nautilus stand looked like it was inspired by the work of Gustave Eiffel- I guess that's the connection with Jules Verne covered .

But with the quintessential Nemo being as English as tea and scones, perhaps you could look at some of our own eminent Victorian engineers, with structures like Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge or Stephenson's High Level Bridge.

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« Reply #94 on: February 02, 2012, 05:42:23 PM »

This is a stunning build... :-))
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« Reply #95 on: February 02, 2012, 05:43:08 PM »

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But with the quintessential Nemo being as English as tea and scones, perhaps you could look at some of our own eminent Victorian engineers, with structures like Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge or Stephenson's High Level Bridge.

Was he English, I feel it is left unexplained in Disneys movie, with only quotes refering to "that evil nation" being less than a clue. I feel that the evil nation in question could, in fact be dear old Blighty, with munitions mining, exported to the world, referred to. The US of A was probably pre-occupied in the 1860s, and beyond that, I dont know. Maybe its time I read the book, not just the interesting bits :}
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #96 on: February 02, 2012, 05:45:51 PM »

This is a stunning build... :-))

Cheers, I hope its just enough 'off kilter' to maintain the interest. Looks like this will be the first of my subs to hit the water, thats when it separates the men from the boys...I must start practicing my excuses, or buying waders....
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #97 on: February 02, 2012, 06:39:15 PM »

I've read the book, trust me the film is very different.

The English are always the grassholes in Hollywood, you should know that!

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2012, 01:41:44 PM »

Intense Concentration...

Evil Looking ( squid looks quite nasty too!)...


Stupid Looking ( Squid too! )...



Anyway, tentacles cut into the head and test fitted yesterday, current debate is how to fix them, as four will be mobile and four will be used to hang the beast off of Nautilus. Silicone will not bond the PU rubber, tried that. My preferred option would be to tack them in with cyano and then fill the tentacle end of the head to about 20mm depth with more PU rubber, we will see..












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« Reply #99 on: February 18, 2012, 06:28:18 PM »

i killed  a squid with a harpoon in spain    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

i was aiming for a fish but there was a squid behind the fish........   you know what they say.........

ben swims warily down the street,
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his flippers,
 harpoons  ready to go

Are you ready,
Are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your sub
Out of the sub the arrows rip
To the sound of the beat


Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

How do you think I'm going to get along,
Without you, when you're gone
You took me for everything that I had,
And kicked me out on my own

Are you happy, are you satisfied
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the hatch the arrows rip
To the sound of the beat



Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a squid
And bring it to the ground
You can beat it
You can cheat it
You can treat it bad and leave it
When it's down
But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you
I'm swimming with my own two flippers
Out of the hatch the arrows rip
Repeating the sound of the beat

dududu mamamamama  dududu mamamamama   oh the song ended
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