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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #125 on: June 07, 2012, 06:32:57 PM »

Time to hit the bottle....

Too late, better get back on the sub instead. Its time for little bits of underside detail. Starting with the corkscrew looking device.




I have used a mixture of corkscrew, tufnol, billing porthole and brass bit, plus chopped up tile spacers for widgets. I have also superglued it in place, so I may well back this up with a fillet of epoxy to avoid any dropping off issues.



I have also managed to accidentally kick the model, which fractured the gelcoat around my stainless pins, just in front of the foreward hydroplane. Now suitably epoxied in place.


Two shiney new Aeronaut cleats to replace the missing plastic one fitted originally.


This is going to bug me. The replacement tufnol support for the prop ring is slightly shorter than the aluminium original, it would be on the top where I can see it. however, I have a plan...




Underside widgets, a combination of square section styrene and resin cast 'things' plus some brass belaying pins drilled in, to convert sea water into energy, or some other fiendishly clever thing :}
I was hoping to get the old bucket presentable for Alfold this coming weekend, not looking likely, may still bring it though...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2012, 07:00:00 AM »

Very clever screw!
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #127 on: July 19, 2012, 05:27:29 PM »

Cheers, no kitchen implement is safe while I am building a model :-))
Temporarily side tracked onto a boat that looks like a submarine, even has a pair of Whitehead torpedoes on deck.



I am resisting the urge to let the latent Steampunk in me, out while detailing this beast :}
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #128 on: July 20, 2012, 05:58:39 AM »

Cheers, no kitchen implement is safe while I am building a model :-))
Temporarily side tracked onto a boat that looks like a submarine, even has a pair of Whitehead torpedoes on deck.



I am resisting the urge to let the latent Steampunk in me, out while detailing this beast :}


That sure is one menacing looking boat.
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #129 on: July 20, 2012, 08:46:14 AM »

What is the boat??  Looks very interesting!

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #130 on: July 20, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »

It is loosely (very) based on German built, Ottoman Navy Steam Torpedo boats from the 1890s, and was originally built to feature in our manned battleship display.
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #131 on: July 20, 2012, 11:20:38 AM »

Very interesting. She looks so much like the "Turkish" Nordenfelt submarine.

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #132 on: July 20, 2012, 11:56:02 AM »

I am only influenced by the best! Nordenfelt 4 barrel gun now fitted on the rear deck. I enjoyed building that, however, if one more person praises my 'Gatling Gun'..... >>:-(
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #133 on: July 20, 2012, 04:02:08 PM »

I am only influenced by the best! Nordenfelt 4 barrel gun now fitted on the rear deck. I enjoyed building that, however, if one more person praises my 'Gatling Gun'..... >>:-(

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #134 on: July 20, 2012, 04:26:07 PM »

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #135 on: July 20, 2012, 11:00:38 PM »

thats a threat alan lets not have any of that  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #136 on: July 20, 2012, 11:43:36 PM »

be different , stand out from the crowd , it would make a change to see something a little out of the ordinary at the lake !
I thought the sole purpose of submarines, in whatever form they take,...was...not to be seen, O0
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2012, 09:14:21 AM »

I thought the sole purpose of submarines, in whatever form they take,...was...not to be seen, O0
Thats why mine hide at home!!
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #138 on: September 14, 2012, 12:17:35 PM »

Anyone got clear images of a Darnell/Models By Design U-Class sub out of the water? I have been trying to find some good shots of the model of P35, the Mediteranean Blue model owned by an AMS member but have only found some general shots of the AMS stand at Brighton.
I am looking for a donor hull for the next Nautilus, the 'unbuilt' one. I have looked at the OTW Surcouf, but at 87" long, it is too big for my little hovell. I have just squeezed a 1/72 scale Type 45 in at 84" and that was a struggle. That put me off the 'big' option! 

 Looking at the U Class it has features I am looking for to overlay Nautilus on to it, and its shorter :-)
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2012, 12:40:41 PM »

Aha...have a look at the AMS forum, under 'pictures of your boats'...there's plenty of the boat you're looking for on there. It's Dave Wright's, by the way.


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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #140 on: September 14, 2012, 12:53:36 PM »

Cheers, will do...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #142 on: September 14, 2012, 01:36:50 PM »

Thats the beast, no saddle tanks, not too much upper casing and a set of beautiful curves aft...I think I'm in love :}
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #143 on: September 14, 2012, 05:24:04 PM »

Couple more-




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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #144 on: September 14, 2012, 05:57:45 PM »

I can do things with that, may involve a whole tub of filler to reshape the bow though. Out with the pen, pencil and PC tonight for a bit of sketching.
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #145 on: September 14, 2012, 06:30:21 PM »

That sounds like a fairly major reconstruction. Unless you can pick-up an old hull cheap, would it not make more sense to produce maybe a lost foam style hull?

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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #146 on: September 17, 2012, 12:07:36 PM »

As the design has evolved I have considered various construction methods. A full blown fibreglass mold and hull would be the best option, however, it would also be the most expensive. Also, I might be tempted to sell a couple to recoup my costs. The model would be slightly less unique then. Subs are probably the most difficult things to mold as well, so thats out.
An all wood option would be the most enjoyable thing to build, it would then require much sealing inside and out. Not done right it would start to suffer over the years, thats a no.
The lost foam option is a bit too messy for my workspace, firstly the foam carving resulting in bits of blue foam static clinging to everything, sticky mess being flushed out of the model somewhere, and finally much filling and sanding to obtain the end finish, yuk, itchy too.
A big static model has crossed my mind more than once, it would spend substantially less than 1% of its life in the water, and would look great at static shows, bit of a cop out though, so no.
The donor hull option, though not the cheapest, would save a large amount of time in the build. the extra detailing such as armoured bridge, upper casing etc, could be built as a reverse mold, i.e. I make all the details in 'negative', lay on the glass fibre, then remove the panels etc and offer them up to the model. thats how I am thinking at the moment. Also over the last ten years I seem to have been doing a lot of donor hull modifications, so its not new to me. The most involved being a hangar structure, built in reverse, to sit on a pre-existing merchant ship hull, and that worked and fit in all the right paces..escort carrier on the quick!
I am still open to suggestions though, so keep em coming...
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2012, 05:54:38 PM »

One quick session later...

It looks like I can fit a WWII U-Class submarine inside my Nautilus with very few design tweaks :-)
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Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
« Reply #148 on: October 09, 2012, 05:52:55 PM »

Many long sessions later....

I have been deeply interested in the CAD discussions going on hereabouts, and would like to say I will be doing the final design work on Nautilus II using cardboard :-)). This makes me a bit of a heathen, but its how I works. Mind you, I have just spent two weeks on and off, tweaking previous images to match my foam mock up, using 't 'puter. ( The Computer... :-))).
The plan now is to await purchase of my donor hull, while completing Nautilus I, then out with the cardboard and parcel tape to mock up at full size, around said hull.
This 'caveman' technology has served me well in the past, and will do again in my retro-future...long live Neo- Victorianism. Now pass me the parcel tape :-))
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« Reply #149 on: October 09, 2012, 06:33:39 PM »

Can't beat the card mock-up, CAD is clever and handy for things but you can't beat having something physical to look at and tweak!
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