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[phillnjack]

I have a very good 35mhz field force 7 futaba radio tx and rx.
Can this set be converted to the new 2.4 ghz stuff or is it not an option ?

Im not exactly electrical minded, but having a good radio has always been what i want.

this might be a silly question, but if it can be done, then what sort of price to convert it ?



phill

[john s 2]

Yes.More than one supplier lists your radio.  As being able to be up graded.E Bay under areoplanes lists Fsky.Corona As selling suitable
units. Item 280607320672 lists a fsky conversion at £26.99.Uk seller.Has listedhis phone number. Im sure a call to him will answer
your questions.Giant cod also do 2.4 conversions. John

[phillnjack]

thanks for the info

it realy would be nice to use this legally.

i like the set as its got plenty of stuff to allow for servo rate changes etc etc.

Plus its just a nice set all round.


phill

[Chameo]

Although it isn't listed in FrSkys compatibility list there are several people on the internet using the FrSky V8FT module in a Futaba FF7 successfully. I'm using it in my Hitec Eclipse 7.

[john s 2]

Im not sure what you mean to use it legaly.Unless the unit comes with a ce sticker and the importer has the appropiate certificate
from Ofcom.  Then to use may not be within the law. If you buy direct from China then you are the importer. Having said this it
appears no one bothers anyway.Your insurance may not be valid. as equipements not as brought. The MPBA appear to be doing an
excellent job of sitting on the fence ,stating it would take a group of lawyers to decide on this matter.The answer remains as clear
as mud. Of which ive been up to my waders in. John

[phillnjack]

When i say legaly, i mean use 2.4ghz and not 35mhz on a boat.
Im not supposed to use 35mhz for boat stuff but i often do.
If im going to run a boat out at sea, i use my 35mhz tx and rx, due to the reliability of the set.
and the fact that nobody else is around.

Thats what i mean by legal etc.

Im not worried about ce marks etc, thats all just a big big con.



phill

[triumphjon]

there are several conversion kits on the market , does your radio have a modual for the frequency ? this i belive to be a straight forward plug in swap . i was also bebating converting a 40 mhz hitec set but seeing the latest offering from planet ive just bought the new planet twister 2.4 ghz  6 channel computer radio with 8 model memory which retails at £70 for both a transmitter and receiver ! 

[HS93 (RIP)]

Futaba do one as well for it.
http://www.stevewebb.co.uk/index.php?pid=FUTPFTM07&area=Radio

http://media.radiocontrolzone.com/mair/RadiosPage/articles/article2.pdf

most shops have the receivers

Peter

[debssnal]

Have a look at this.
hope it is of some help
http://www.giantcod.co.uk/frsky-24ghz-futaba-combo-module-receiver-p-404882.html
kind regards
Alan

[Circlip]

Sorry Phill, there is

no excuse whatsoever

for running a toy boat on the the toy AIRCRAFT Freq. What recourse would someone flying using 40 moggies have in the event of an "Event"??

 

If im going to run a boat out at sea, i use my 35mhz tx and rx, due to the reliability of the set.
and the fact that nobody else is around.

  You can obviously see both behind and a 40" span exocet at 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile away?

  Regards  Ian.

[triumphjon]

it would appear circlip that some modellers dont care what frequency they operate on ! i started when it was just 27mhz , and regular interference from cb radios , now that you can buy a good multi chanel 2.4 set for less than a 27 or 40 mhz  2 chanel set !

[phillnjack]

Well circlip
when do you come across rc airplanes 3 to 4 miles out at sea ?

and i have no concern at all with rc plain fliers when they use 27am/fm or 40meg, and many of them still do.

I have used 35 meg on helicoptors and had no problems with my set.

i do have plans to have the set put on 2.4 if i can cheaply.

now where do i buy a good mulit channel 2.4 set thats cheaper than a 2 channel 27 meg set ?[/b]


phill

[Circlip]

Errr, 27 moggies AM/FM Is legal tender for ALL forms of model? Still use a Quantum and a Sanwa on my toy plains planes.

 For plane fliers to use 40 moggies is also inexcusable, no, - - - - - - g STUPID

  Regards   Ian.

[malcolmfrary]

now where do i buy a good mulit channel 2.4 set thats cheaper than a 2 channel 27 meg set?

http://www.giantcod.co.uk/gianitcod-24ghz-4channel-mode2-transmitter-p-403779.html
for the tx/rx (4 channel)

http://www.giantcod.co.uk/frsky-v8ft-24ghz-futaba-module-only-version-p-405313.html
reads like a conversion for several futaba tx's, yours might be in the list.

CE labelling is a really good idea when things go pear shaped and you need to be able to prove a point legally in order to keep your house.  Litigation is an expensive business for those who make up their own rules.

[funtimefrankie]

Has anyone ever been sued by another modeler,ever made a claim against insurance for a crash,(boat against boat; plane dropping out of the sky because of interference etc) or even claimed on their own insurance for damage while sailing?

[Circlip]

Naff all to do about claiming from another modeller Frankie, 2 fatalities from someone being hit by model Gliders. SMAE brought in the minimum nose/spinner radius rule because of this.

 It's bad enough with the crossover of Legal frequency usage without some dopey p - - t doing it with disregard illegally.

  "But it's only - - - -"

   Yea, right.

  Regards   Ian.

[phillnjack]

If your referring to me being dopey , do yourself a favour and keep your opinions to yourself.

you have no idea as to where and when i operate my models.

as i have stated , i will be probably be changing to 2.4, but i also operate on other frequency.


Now that £25 radio set would never be seen in any of my boats.

No way would i send out a 50mph boat using toy radio.
please dont anyone try telling me that this stuff works as good as even the cheapest of the futaba 27am stuff.
The range claim is terrible, i need more range than toy stuff, might be ok for slow electric or sail or steam.
But no way good enough for large fast boats  travelling at speed.

Ive seen people bragging about this crap reaching a whopping 3oo meters !!!! thats not range, thats just a blip.

If 2.4 is only short range then ill stick to 27am, i get a long way with that.


phill

[triumphjon]

you must operate your models through feild glasses then ? ive been using a planet t5 for the past year with absolutly no problems , even better for your application as its got a built in fail safe !

[phillnjack]

This all seems to be far too good to be true to be honest, im a bit old school, you get what you pay for etc.


A few more questions about the 2.4 stuff

How do you go about losing control in waves etc.

What i mean is, say im on the beach, boat is say 3 to 400yards out waves around 1 foot giving a 2 ft swell
will i then lose control using 2.4ghz.
I dont lose it on 27am at the moment, ive heard rumours about it not being much good for water stuff.
I know subs are no good with it but im hoping to never have my boat going down.

Is this purely line of sight type radio ? like ship to shore vhf radio ?

It just all seems far too good to be any good for the price.
I realy dont fancy using cheap nasty finnished plastic tx that looks like its from the poundshop.

I know that many people are using the stuff, but are they using 5 foot long powerboats doing 50mph plus ?

if i buy a module and rx from say giant cod, am i getting the same performance as a futaba module or is there a real big difference.

i might seam to be comming across a bit harsh, but i realy dont want any high speed mishaps.
sorry to those who i might of offended in this topic (unless your a flier, i hate fliers, they have far too much enjoyment from their hobby)




phill

[Circlip]

Well circlip
when do you come across rc airplanes 3 to 4 miles out at sea ?

 

What i mean is, say im on the beach, boat is say 3 to 400yards out waves around 1 foot giving a 2 ft swell

  The thot plickens.

[phillnjack]

Ok circlip it seems your out to be pedantic.

Ill write this slow just for you..

most of the time if i have been using 35 with rc boats ,would of been doing so offshore,
roughly 3 to 5 miles out at sea from a full size boat platform.............only planes out there are normaly full size !


The question about from a beach was a totaly different scenario, ( something different)i.e from a beach situation where i would normally use 27 am.

And yes i do also operate from the beach, but like everyone else i am restricted for speed untill 300 meters out.  (By laws )

now if i am standing on the beach, and lose sight of model for a split second due to wave height ( water waves, not me waving my hands),
am i going to loose control using 2.4  ?



now was that slow enough for you circlip







phill.......

[Netleyned]

I use 35Mhz when there is no one around
I dont lose it on 27 Mhz

Why use 35Mhz?
Just do as you like and paint the rest of us as idiotic

Just the sort of person that could bring licensing in again

On the beach someone could be flying an aircraft
You have 360 deg vision
Pillock
Sorry mispelt the handle


Ned

[Circlip]

Y e s,  b u t  I ' m  n o t  s t u p i d  e n o u g h  t o  u s e 3 5 m o g g i e s  f o r  t o y  B o a t s

  

[phillnjack]

Location ..........Mouth of the humber...suits you very well


there is no law that says i cannot operate any model on 35meg when 3 miles out

go check the laws on this before accusing people of doing something illegal.

youl also find you can legally use 27am cb radios out there as well, like many foreign boats do.


phill

[Circlip]

Some fought long and hard in the 60s/70s for Clean frequencies to be able to operate our toys with as much safety as could be shown to an ignorant population some of whom regarded it their RIGHT to operate illegal radio communications. The mechanism was there that if one wanted to talk to others, a test had to be passed to ensure that they understood the basics of what they were doing.

  Sadly, the "B - - - - r You" brigade stamped all over legislation and even when allocated a correct system (27FM) many of the CB wallies wouldn't change the illegal equipment they'd already bought, some even advocated going to the local model shop and getting a transmitter crystal to substitute cos "You can get a load MORE channels out of the "Rig" that others can't get".

 The first allocation of a specific frequency for use by Aircraft modellers only was 35Mhz FM. This was mainly due to the fact that toys working in THREE dimensions (ferget Subs) were more likely to cause injury (Serious) than a toy boat hitting a bank to anything other than the model. Clever thinking by the regulatory board, they also informed a moaning boat brigade that they too would have an allocation at a future point, so DON'T use 35 for boats.

 Good to note stupidity, still seems to be regarded as a virtue. Probably don't need to prove ones capability to drive a car then? You really should be careful when playing at sea, It's quite legal for a seven year old to drive a full sized power craft, HE don't need to be insured EITHER.