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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1125 on: March 25, 2009, 03:01:50 PM »

I'm thinking the same thing 'down below', with decking in place, handrails,etc ect 'wow!! If anybody says it wont be a bother, I think I'd be tad inclined  NOT to believe them!!  I'm taking the easy way out, and NOT doing the 'Camo'.......Dave.

It would be nice to finish her as shown in the mags, but I bet most will give up the ghost of camo when they see the nightmare of a task needed without it ending up looking rough.

I can't see how perfect superstructure camo lines are going to be achieved when so much detail has been added, it looks to me like someone forgot to think about this when developing the model, lets see what the mag comes up with, but dont hold your breath for any easy way out as I can see non.
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« Reply #1126 on: March 25, 2009, 08:57:15 PM »

G'day Down below, maybe, 'they' (Amati) supply a gang of 'wee painters' in a packet at the end of the build (only if requested??) to clamber over the handrails and all the other bits with their paintpots and brushes in hand,all you do then, just sit back and watch them go for it!!! At what point do we begin?, like you say, "how are we going to do it as most of the superstructure, decks etc will probably be fitted?... who knows??!!.....but I can assume.....with great difficulty!!
 I think there should have been very light etched lines, like on a 'plastic model' and a paint guide, IE, the part to be 'camo' painted described in the instructions with a 'B' or a 'W' tag, again like a plastic kit!, therefor when all the pre-painting of parts is completed, (and let's face it, this HAS to be done!) the parts can then be fixed in place and all the 'camo' patterns should line up with each other 'neatly' and therefor be correct and looking somewhat like it should in the photo's!!.........Dave
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« Reply #1127 on: March 26, 2009, 12:06:04 AM »

  Use a laser to define the lines for the camouflage stripes. You can buy a tape measure that projects  a straight line that would deal with all the awkward changes of surface. In fact, and I wait for the moderators to pounce, you can buy one - at an extremely modest price - from my Ebay shop, The Handyman.
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« Reply #1128 on: March 26, 2009, 07:32:48 AM »

The problem is not particularly in defining the stripes but carying out the task.

The build has been relentless to the point that the model is near complete in all its very high detail with no thought to painting the camo stripes.
The possibility to spray the camo stripes on the superstructure is long gone because of the complex nature of the detail in place, this leaves brush painting, where masking straight lines is made near impossible because of the detail installed, basically the mag should have tackled this ages ago and not at the last minute, maybe they have a magic wand in one of the coming mags  <*<
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« Reply #1129 on: March 26, 2009, 03:26:11 PM »

There is an opt out, one that I might take, and that is to paint her as she was after leaving Bergen.

They painted out all the black and white stripes apart from the slightest hint of it showing through the hull where they did'nt have time to do a proper job.

the only parts left untouched were the bow and stern darker areas with the white bow wave.
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« Reply #1130 on: March 26, 2009, 08:58:08 PM »

G'day gents, the 'other option' is to paint her in plain ole grey (it's a light grey??)as she was during sea trials/commissioning, no sign of any stripes then!!.....and yes!, before you all gets to a thinkin', I'm well aware of bits and pieces that were not fitted as yet, like radar, blast bags on the aft turrets, there were extra  life boats, (this will prove a scratchbuilding challenge to me!),probably other things to, but I'm constantly finding out more as I go along,  but in the end?, who knows what I'll do, all I know (for sure) at this stage, no stripes!!!.........Dave.
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« Reply #1131 on: April 02, 2009, 08:42:44 AM »

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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1132 on: April 02, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »

Martin,

Are you ever put up some more work on tour Bismarck,
looking forward to seeing you finish her..........

Roy
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« Reply #1133 on: April 02, 2009, 03:10:31 PM »

Just got back from seeing my Father in Jamaica so hope to make a restart soon. Martin
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« Reply #1134 on: April 02, 2009, 08:18:57 PM »

Just got back from seeing my Father in Jamaica so hope to make a restart soon. Martin

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« Reply #1135 on: April 02, 2009, 08:50:17 PM »

Jamaica, see any battleships down that way? {-)
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1136 on: April 03, 2009, 02:08:10 AM »

I think the Jamaica navy still have galleons!
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« Reply #1137 on: April 03, 2009, 10:35:27 AM »

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I think the Jamaica navy still have galleons!

Of Rum?  :}
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« Reply #1138 on: April 03, 2009, 06:35:10 PM »

Gallons.....what, are they not metric yet {-)
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1139 on: April 04, 2009, 01:58:52 AM »

I think the Jamaica navy still have galleons!

At least they have a navy  O0

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« Reply #1140 on: April 05, 2009, 04:29:02 PM »

Hey all,
I thought the Bismark looked like a bit of a pain, Victory looks like it ought to come with complimentary anti-depressants.  Lots of detail(s) but looks like you have have one of those little microscopes like they use for IVF to achieve that kind of detail.
Has anyone completed their Bismark and actually got it R/C'ed?  I see that Martin had the mechanicals for it but I haven't seen anyone complete one.
If my 7 year old (not really the poster child for patience and detail work)would do it without me having to do it for her. I would almost me tempted to get some of the mags for her to start on (until she got tired of it) and she would leave me alone about my own project(s)
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1141 on: April 06, 2009, 01:42:20 PM »

fooman,

Yes Bismarck has motors, rudders, and battery and also sails..........

Well mine does anyway.........

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« Reply #1142 on: April 08, 2009, 05:18:36 AM »

Roy,
Let's see the pics man!
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1143 on: April 08, 2009, 03:14:39 PM »

Its still only the hull and deck no superstructure..........

Will take pics tomorrow in the test tank..............

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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #1144 on: April 10, 2009, 02:43:52 PM »

As promised put the hull in the test tank,
not an abundance of room.....

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« Reply #1145 on: April 10, 2009, 10:22:18 PM »

I have a similiar yet slightly larger test tank you could have
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« Reply #1146 on: April 15, 2009, 11:21:31 PM »

Howz about the 'Pacific'  'Tasman '  'Indian ' these are 3 lots of water that come to mind in Australia that should be big enough!!...I'm only jealous, she looks great!!...Dave
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« Reply #1147 on: April 20, 2009, 05:03:06 AM »

G'day, just did the 4 turret frames, but just to be different I made the guns go up and down!!. For this you either have to disguard the 'blast bags', or make new 'flexible' ones that will allow for this. At this time, I am not fitting the bags, just found a photo on line from a German site that shows her with no bags, full Radar fitted, and moe importantly, Grey!!........Dave.
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« Reply #1148 on: May 06, 2009, 11:03:45 PM »

Looks like we're in dry dock for a refit, must all be down the pub!!. I'm just moving along quietly myself, trying to figure out where all the left over brass goes, doing a bit of air brushing, just more or less trying to clear my workload. The next 4 parts , the brass for the turrets shouldn't be far away.
I've also been into a German site, the parts up to 137 are shown....see you guys...Dave
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« Reply #1149 on: May 10, 2009, 09:25:13 PM »

looking good martin, whens the boat going to sail under her own power?
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