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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #975 on: July 06, 2008, 11:39:22 PM »

Can you tell me a bit more about the Glatfix stuff, what it's like?
Web site info?
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #976 on: July 06, 2008, 11:53:39 PM »

Nice to see some progress Martin - are you enjoying the planking ;)
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« Reply #977 on: July 07, 2008, 10:48:21 AM »

Can you tell me a bit more about the Glatfix stuff, what it's like?
Web site info?


It is the same stuff from Graupner. It seals the wood from "within".

http://i7.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/b8/f4/c01b_1.JPG
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #978 on: July 07, 2008, 01:24:45 PM »


Nice to see some progress Martin - are you enjoying the planking ;)

Actually yes!

I've been procrastinating for all sorts of reasons but it went on very easily and quickly.
.... All was fine until after the weekend, when I realised that the 2nd layer planking should be staggered,
like brickwork..... Ah!  :-\          Well no real harm done.... I hope!


Back to this Glaffix stuff, I can find very little about it anywhere. It seems that it's very much like good
old 'sanding sealer'..... but 3 times the price! can anyone confirm that?

The very knowledgable Marcus says on another forum:


"Another quick question for Markus if he's about today when doing the coats of Glatfix, still have some
from first layer of planking, when to you apply it? ie. once all smooth, prior to any filler or in between?"

Marcus:
Glattfix is applied after second planking is coarsely sanded:
Glattfix, fine sanding, glattfix, fine sanding... it took me 4 coats for a really smooth hull - no filler needed at all
if you still have any gaps after 3 or 4 coats of glattfix then it's time for some filler...
Markus.

http://buildthebismark.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=info&action=display&thread=938&page=10


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« Reply #979 on: July 08, 2008, 07:58:14 PM »

Its coming on really well, however "I tink the little fella seems to be doing all the work"
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« Reply #980 on: July 09, 2008, 09:37:24 PM »

Hello Martin,I think that your doing a wonderful job on her O0 Simply beautiful,Walter
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #981 on: July 15, 2008, 01:56:52 PM »

Martin,

The vent strips you have attached with the repairs are
I am afraid not going to work out, as you have to insert
small little brass sheets into the different shapes and
the repair strips you have used are way to big you will
not get them into the holes, you will have to cut down
your repair strips quite a bit, sorry mate...........


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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #982 on: July 15, 2008, 02:52:08 PM »

Oh! OK, what issue do they come in?
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #983 on: July 15, 2008, 04:33:22 PM »

I think their the brass bits in issue 48. O0
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #984 on: July 16, 2008, 11:45:59 AM »

No sorry they are in issue 47......
they do make those little holes look a lot better........


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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #985 on: July 16, 2008, 02:25:52 PM »



Question, the step in the hull, at the top, the 2 'inset planks'....... I can't see this in any of the original photos?!!








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« Reply #986 on: July 16, 2008, 07:51:46 PM »

Oops sorry, I was close, but that only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades :D

Anyway, added the numbers 1 and 2 in your top photo. these 2 rows of planking represent the recesses area at the top of the armour belt. they are not double planked as the rest of the hull. and if you want a good modification add a third line of planking on top and form your removeable deck to fit. There is a modification thread on this on Mark's page and it does take some doing but will benefit in the water-proofing ability. Some have joined the 2 removeable pieces,I'm still toying wth this idea.
Hope this helps. O0
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #988 on: July 16, 2008, 11:25:22 PM »

That was quick {-)
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #989 on: July 24, 2008, 03:21:45 PM »


2nd layer of sticks..... going well !!!!  :P

Just been on fleaBay, can anyone tell me what the difference between SANDING SEALER & SHELLAC WHITE SANDING SEALER is please?


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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #990 on: July 24, 2008, 10:50:09 PM »

Good question :D, hopefully we have a chemist onboard {-)
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« Reply #991 on: July 24, 2008, 10:54:49 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that conventional sanding sealer is cellulose based. Shellac is derived from resin excreted by a certain type of beetle. Having used both, I prefer the latter as it gives a very hard and smooth finish when abraded and takes paint very well. It is particularly good as a finishing coat on gummed paper strip and I have completed most of my models with this combination.

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« Reply #992 on: July 31, 2008, 10:57:01 PM »

Use sanding sealer - it smells good and works better. A few coats and you'll have a very waterproof hull. That's what we used on my Dad's Bismark followed by several coats of high-build primer to help smooth things out. The primer will want a coat of gloss airbrushed on to waterproof it properly but that's easy enough then it can go grey.

He's bang up to date at the half way point. The etched bits for the superstructure are very good:



I'm using the same hull treatment on my Fantail Launch. If there are to be any problames I'd rather find out on this than the battleships !
Pics of this at: http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/search/label/Fantail%20launch

Hope this helps !

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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #993 on: August 08, 2008, 04:34:03 AM »


I was looking about buying one of those etched brass benders "hold n Fold" etc ... but then i saw the price!!
35 - 95... yeah, Right!



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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #994 on: August 08, 2008, 08:22:39 AM »

I own a Hold'n'Fold device but my Dad hasn't needed to borrow it yet. A pair of small square ended pliers (I bought a Stanley set from a pound shop once) will be more use to you. The lines to fold along are half etched and the brass not very hard so the biggest problem is the tiny size of some of the parts ! The fit of them so far has been excellent, far better than many of the etched locomotive kits I build.

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« Reply #995 on: August 08, 2008, 11:01:58 AM »

go to youre local hardware store and buy a large, good quality hinge.
keep the edges sharp, result
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« Reply #996 on: August 08, 2008, 02:30:11 PM »

A metal ruler and pliers work for me, as Phill said the brass parts fold along their lnes and fit together very nicely.
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« Reply #997 on: August 25, 2008, 11:01:25 AM »

Hi Martin you are doing a great job, or is it really your little work mate who is in charge. Can he be hired and if so what's the hourly rate?  Cheers Graham
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #998 on: September 01, 2008, 12:38:39 AM »

hey martin
when are you going to post some more pics of your build?
are the little men on strike?
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Re: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job?
« Reply #999 on: September 01, 2008, 11:10:48 AM »

He's been on holiday.... without me!  :(
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