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John Mk2

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Laser Eye Treatment ?
« on: January 28, 2011, 02:32:26 PM »

Anyone on here had it done ? As the Mrs is thinking about it %)
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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 02:36:31 PM »

Hello, A doctor friend of mine said no way, on the other side friends of mine have had it done & are quite happy with the result, so it is down to you, good luck,  Nemesis
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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 02:39:44 PM »

Its the Mrs thinking on it ok2 As Iam O.K  :-))
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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 02:57:14 PM »

Worth looking into as it is so much better  than it was 15 years ago.

But seek professional independent advice, from an optemetrist.

15 years ago the advice I got was no way. As the effects, at best, last 15 years. And it cannot be re-done. And as you get older 15 years seems no time at all.

However, they are using completely different techniques now. Much less destructive.

Like I say, seek independent and up to date advice from a professional. And your GP may not be qualified to advise.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 03:09:38 PM »

If it's for reasons of vanity I'd say don't risk it. The individual concerned might be sensitive about wearing glassses but nobody else cares whether you do or not so why bother.
If it goes wrong and your vision deteriorates then you will regret it for ever.

Spend the money on a holiday instead.

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 03:12:23 PM »

My wife before she was a GP worked in the Sunderland Eye Infirmary aand thinks it is only limited to certain types of eye conditions
and anything done to your eyes is not reversible - can give good results for the right conditions though she personally would not
have it done on her eyes

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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 03:26:01 PM »

Acutally the 'older' technique (PRK) is less destructive with less (serious) complication than LASIK. However it requires an eyepad to be worn for week (time off work) and some discomfort when the anesthetic wore off and you could only do one eye at a time (have to wear an eye pad for a week) and slower recovery. LASIK chaged all that but introduced a surgial incision and the creation of a flap (which is where some of the more interesting complication can occur). Now we have LASEK which uses alcohol to soften the epthilial layer and nessitates  the use of a contact lens for a day or two after. I'd plump for LASEK or even PRK anyday over LASIK. All these procedures correct only your distance vision and you will need glasses for reading once past the age of around 45. You should think of it as cosmetic surgery.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 03:26:53 PM »

She's just fed up with glass's {:-{ Try contacts could not get on with them {:-{ Laser seem to be the only option left.
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John Mk2

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 03:44:04 PM »

Acutally the 'older' technique (PRK) is less destructive with less (serious) complication than LASIK. However it requires an eyepad to be worn for week (time off work) and some discomfort when the anesthetic wore off and you could only do one eye at a time (have to wear an eye pad for a week) and slower recovery. LASIK chaged all that but introduced a surgial incision and the creation of a flap (which is where some of the more interesting complication can occur). Now we have LASEK which uses alcohol to soften the epthilial layer and nessitates  the use of a contact lens for a day or two after. I'd plump for LASEK or even PRK anyday over LASIK. All these procedures correct only your distance vision and you will need glasses for reading once past the age of around 45. You should think of it as cosmetic surgery.

Bit of a minefield this {:-{ But you cant be to careful when it comes to any of the senses.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 04:16:00 PM »

I asked my optician about this a few years ago. The advice given was that in many cases it left people with reduced night vision due to the type of procedure used at the time. The reduction of vision often put them below the minimum for driving - back to glasses.

The procedure required a series of radial laser cuts on the lense to re profile it, leaving scar tissue which reduced the quantity of light taken in.

The process has changed since then and these issues may no longer be relevant, but it was enough to put me off

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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 04:24:41 PM »

All lasers have always been concentric as far as I know. (Though the Russian started of refractive surgery with Radial keratotomy- no laser here). There is no reduction in night vision. If your puplil dilates past the area treated in low light condition it can result in glare, though modern techniques treat a bigger area and pupil size should have been assessed as part of the suitablilty assessment.
Though the procedure is similar whereever you go, it pays to visit a centre that will carry out a proper assessment and offeres you the choice of all three procedures, rather than one than tries to make it money by treating as many people as possible for the lowest fee.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 04:33:43 PM »

Please be aware that the success rate is not 100%. Things can go badly wrong. Try asking whoever is going to do the work how
many cases they have previously done. Also there success rate. See if they will put it in writing.Bet they wont.John.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 05:22:04 PM »

I had LASIK done on both eyes seven years ago with no problems.  Makes a big difference.

Though it gives you a hell of a fright seeing your wife clearly first thing in the morning. {-)
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 05:37:48 PM »



My colleague had it done two years ago and recommends it to everyone, she had worn glasses all of her life and now she only has to wear them late at night as her eyes get tired. Her brother had also worn glasses all his life and had it done and again he says he can't fault it.

As mentioned in the previous, I would recommend that you both research  the options available as there seems to be lots of different companies around who offer the service and there are bound to be good and bad ones. 

I went through a similar thing a couple of years ago when I decided that I wanted to have a gastric band.  I googled it first and read about the procedure, then read through loads and loads of peoples stories, good and bad about their experiences of gastric band surgery.

In the end I found a company who actually put me in touch with some of their ex-patients, I was able to ring them up and speak to them one-to-one about their experiences (could have even arranged to meet them in person) but I didn't go ahead with the surgery until if felt 100 percent  happy.



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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 05:41:20 PM »

Being a "sufferer" from an eye related problem (ARMD) I've quite naturally taken some interest in various treatments for various eye related problems. The "treatable by laser" thing seems to be pretty nebulous to say the least. I may well be wrong here, but I do get the impression that there could well be some "cowboys" out there who charge the earth but can cause more damage to the patient. I'd go along with the Bishop in that having laser treatment just because "you don't like wearing glasses" can be an irreversible disaster. First of all....consult a respected eye specialist consultant working within the NHS and believe what he has to say. BY.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 06:19:24 PM »

My daughter had the operation  on both eyes about three years ago in France at the recommendation of her ophthalmologist . She was wearing contact lenses before the op. She suffered intense discomfort for about 12 hours, after that no problems, no eye patch, no contact lenses just 20/20 vision. Cost her a  lot more in France than it would have done here {:-{ She did say it was a good idea she had both eyes done at the same time or she would not have gone back for the second {-)

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 06:35:43 PM »

The one thing I've been warned about it is not to have this done if you are very short sighted and below 50. The reason I was given is that as you get older your eyes generally start to get long sighted so you could get only a few years before needing glasses again. I'm short sighted with an astigmatism in one eye and my optician said that he could never recommend that I had it done ( also Glaucoma kind of runs in the family so thats another big reason not to do it for me).

I've worn glasses since I was 14 and the one thing that always amazes me is that if I'm swimming in the pool the chlorine in the water makes my eyesight better for up to an hour after getting out , must be that the chemicals in the pool makes the eye change shape so probably not a good idea to get that stuff in my eyes all that often lol
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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 07:06:17 PM »

I've worn glasses since I was 14 and the one thing that always amazes me is that if I'm swimming in the pool the chlorine in the water makes my eyesight better for up to an hour after getting out , must be that the chemicals in the pool makes the eye change shape so probably not a good idea to get that stuff in my eyes all that often lol

Thats probably the pin hole effect, your probably screwing your eyes up because of the irritant from the chlorine. Same thing when cutting onions!

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 09:34:18 PM »

I had mine done about 5 years ago, but the problem i starting to come back again and im on the cusp of needing glasses again.

I was told when I had one done that it was not forever and like sme others have said its a one shot deal.

Something I have noticed as well as Ive aged.... my colour perception is getting wore too.  I was quite bad when I was younger but now its got much much worse.
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Re: Laser Eye Treatment ?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2011, 02:48:52 AM »

When I last seriously researched this, I was told that it is most effective for people who are a little bit short sighted. And at the time the treatment they were using was good for 15 years.
But when the amount of correction needed was bigger the number of years of effectiveness was reduced.

It was not recommended for long sight and did not work of astigmatism. That was 10 years ago.

In the last year or so I read that they no longer cut a flap in the lens. This is no longer needed, as such the danger of a detached lens (in case of a heavy jolt, even years later) is not present.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2011, 03:05:16 AM »

I had the YAG laser treatment done 2 weeks ago.  It was done to eliminate a haziness on one side of my right eye, that comes and goes.  "Floaters" the opthalmologist called it.  The procedure was done in the local outpatient surgery center.  Took about 3 minutes in front of the laser.  Now I have more floaters of the same kind, but more in the center of vision.  A day after the procedure he said it's a piece of material that will break off and settle to the bottom of the eye in time.  Yeah, and I'm selling Mt. Rainer for cheap, you have to haul it away.   <*< <*< <*< <:(

Doesn't the Hippocratic Oath say something about "...but first do no harm?"
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2011, 07:48:00 AM »

Hi cg. Am i right in thinking your floaters were caused by Bleeds? Hence the lazer to seal the blood vessels. Method does work but
can take a while for bits to settle and be absorbed . Over here called macular degeneration (various types). Are you having your eyes
checked every year? Mine are as part of the health service photograthed every year and the results checked for any further problems
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2011, 09:56:29 AM »

I started wearing glasses when I was 10 and became progressively more short-sighted  (also had astigmatism) to the point where the top letter on an eye chart (what eye chart?) was indecipherable and spectacle lenses were both thick and very expensive.

Had LASIK on both eyes 12 years ago at age 52 with no complications or discomfort. I still need reading glasses but was warned of that in advance - it's an age/eye muscle thing - but it felt like throwing away crutches and I have never regretted it. I can still see a sparrow's eye from miles away and there has been no deterioration of my sight through time.

The only caveat I would give is to do your research and make very sure that your vision is fully tested (not everybody is suitable), the Consultant who is to perform the procedure has a successful track record, you meet them before the process and that follow-up checks are frequent and thorough.   Don't be slow to walk away if you don't feel fully confident in what is proposed. It's your sight and your cash.

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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2011, 11:12:06 AM »

I had the YAG laser treatment done 2 weeks ago.  It was done to eliminate a haziness on one side of my right eye, that comes and goes.  "Floaters" the opthalmologist called it. 

A YAG laser is almost always used post cataract surgey to treat posterior capsular opacity and not to treat floaters (no treatment for this short major occular surgery- a vitrectomy). Indeed bits of the capsule can 'float' around post treatment and appear as 'floaters'.

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2011, 11:36:28 PM »

I'm myopic, 47 years old, -5.5 in each eye, and was a TV cameraman: optics is something I know about, and (d'uh) my eyes are important to me.

After 15 years with contact lenses, I looked into laser eye surgery some 7 years ago, and realised that the opticians checking me out for surgery all wore glasses. %)

More recently, I raised the subject with my optician - though I now accept I need reading glasses for close work - and he said that the budget deals for laser surgery are not good for patients with medium/high dioptre problems (like mine) or for big pupils (like mine - I always had hassles trying to find contact lenses whose optical area completely covered my pupils when driving in the dark, for example). He suggested I'd need to be looking at around 2000 per eye for corrective surgery, in order to avoid blurriness at night, and that made it a non-starter.

I'll stick with glasses.  O0  Easier to correct if things don't work out well.

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