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fatcat123

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Royal Navy Caribbean Patrol
« on: February 14, 2011, 09:31:25 pm »

Just watching this weeks program on 5 and its just mentioned that on full power, HMS Manchester uses 1gallon of fuel per engine per 17yards!

Bleeding heck!  %%

I thought my car was thirsty.

I used to work offshore on a pipelay vessel castoro sei and that thing only ran generators but its tanks are huge and it was only filled up every couple of years and it occasionally bunkered to anchor crankers etc.

These vessels look small in relation to the amount of fuel they must hold for the range they have and how much they actually burn. Its unbelievable. Ive had a ride out on various anchor crankers/supply boats and whenever they sit on DP, they have all engines blazing away, in most cases 4 of them. So when they sit around in the north sea bobbing away for weeks, you wonder where they hide all the fuel.

Mind boggling stuff
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John Mk2

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Re: Royal Navy Caribbean Patrol
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 10:13:53 pm »

 %% :-))
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 10:22:23 pm »

Typically it takes around 60% more fuel for a ship to travel the last 30% of it's speed range.

A huge engine running a large pitch prop on a cargo ship cruising at 12 knots uses less fuel than a high revving high power engine running higher revving props (albeit through gearboxes in both cases).

On SY Gondola we use around 350-400kg of fuel per day cruising at 6 knots, to do 10 knots we use around 500kg, and to sustain a maximum cruising speed of 12 knots we would use 500kg in around 2.5 hours.

The reason for the extra fuel is that all ships with displacement hulls, even a highly specialised hull design such as a destroyer, have a maximum hull speed, that as it is approached becomes harder to acheive as the ship simultaneously trys to overreach it's bow wave and drive it's stern under.

This doesn't occur with planing hulls, as once the ship is on the plane (until it's planing it's classed as a displacement hull) it has overcome it's bow wave and is skimming the surface.

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adam_goodin

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 10:33:56 pm »

A Man who knows his Ship Stability and Construction Me thinks!  hmmm ..... Displacement = Volume of water displaced in cubic metres x Density ??? Density usually being 1.025 (Salt water)

 Those 42's are fantastic machines though, it'll be a shame when they go, i never had the pleasure, but did manage 23's among others. %)
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 08:22:45 am »

They said the old DDG Charles F Adams we had used a 44 per foot ie a 44 gallon drum, the ships must be more efficient these days.











Well it might be a little bit of an exaggeration %)

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 09:12:05 am »

Hullo Nick.... years ago I spent many sea going hours ..... :embarrassed: 24 or 48 or 72 hours on our OZ DDG's during sea trails post refit.....however my task was weapons related & not the oil consumption of the boilers %%

....however .... :o  I am unsure of your units of measure as below...... <*<

a 44 per foot ie a 44 gallon drum .....Derek
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Re: Royal Navy Caribbean Patrol
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 04:43:10 pm »

Those 42's are fantastic machines though, it'll be a shame when they go, i never had the pleasure, but did manage 23's among others. %)

Apparently HMS Manchester is a lengthened version of the standard 42's? She certainly looks a very sleek hull -check out the lean on her in the title sequence when doing full speed manouveres though!

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 09:17:10 pm »

Thats right Greg, she's a Batch 3 stretched type 42, of which there is also: Gloucester, Edinburgh and York.

 I think there are only 2 other Type 42's (Batch 2) left now, Liverpool and... Nottingham maybe? I have a good friend who has served on many of the 42's ... most of which are now gone, Cardiff, Glasgow etc.
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