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« on: March 21, 2011, 09:34:34 AM »

This thought had also crossed my mind (about a ferry meet). I was going to try to organise one for next year (when we should have something to show for our labours over the last 4 months or so).

I am also in the process of designing a 'port' with breakwaters, vehicle assembly areas, buildings and, most importantly, linkspans!! It is planned that this can be transported in sections, bought and build by individuals, and be completely modular - meaning that whoever turns up with their section can know that it will interlock with an adjoining section thereby increasing the port area for operations.  All built to 1:96 - but close enough to 1:100 to be useable.

A meet is a damn good idea!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 09:38:47 AM »

It would be good to have a ferry meet. The ferry port looks great. I am working on something like this to protect my ship when along side.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 11:29:13 PM »

I am up for a ferry meet. I know may friend Paul is. Like the dock idea. As well as link spans could we have a berth for ferrys with there own ramps?

John
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 11:43:06 PM »

I am up for a ferry meet. I know may friend Paul is. Like the dock idea. As well as link spans could we have a berth for ferrys with there own ramps?
John

Dead easy John - was working on the design today..........proposal is to be completely modular: instead of the linkspan 'module' the space can be left for 'stern ramp' vessels....

Will post up a sketch in a moment....
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 11:58:11 PM »

Here we go - vessel on the left is using the linkspan, vessel on the right has its own stern ramp.....
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 07:23:23 AM »

Hi Carl
like the drawing you have done. You are very good on the computer drawing that would have taken me ages.
My Friend Jason has the Queen Mary model and I are looking in to making a modular harbour. We have some ideas and are wating on a friend to get some free wood for us to try the idea on. If they work will let you know.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 08:02:45 AM »

If we come up with a universal system of joining the modules together, we can make our own link spans, quays and ramps tailor-made to match our ship sizes.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 12:58:03 AM »

Ali - been mulling this one over in my mind whilst driving home from work (the standardised interlocking...) - have a few thoughts I will clarify during this week and will put something up on here for discussion on saturday.......

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 10:12:38 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 11:09:41 PM »

Thanks for finding those clips Ali - most inspirational  :-)) :-)) :-))

That is one detailed dock!!!!! And the ships are pretty good too!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 09:01:16 PM »

Another cool video. Just wish it was a bit longer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ho3WHU6od0&feature=feedlik
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 06:25:53 PM »

Hi all. I have a question for Carl. When you say "blue foam" What do you mean? Is it the stuff you find at the swimming pool or just stiff sponge. I am designing a quay which consists of a wooden frame, filled with thick polystyrene sheet and sandwiched in plywood. It will have a linkspan like in the picture below.

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 10:08:15 PM »

Hi Ali - the blue foam I refer to can be found here:

http://new.panelsystems.co.uk/newsc/index.pl?c=Craftfoam&p=508&a=i

It is what I use for the plugs of new hulls. It is quite stiff, does not absorb moisture, does not crumble easily and yet can be cut and shaped with ease. I like it because it doesnt need protection from water and can take acrylic paint (looks like concrete when painted grey).

Like the linkspan  :-)) :-)) :-)) Havent thought much further on this yet as I am trying to push on with the plug for the FEV.....
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 10:46:58 PM »

Another source of "blue-foam" is Sheffield Insulations. OOPS >>:-(, I`ll try again.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 10:54:50 PM »


Another source of "blue-foam" is Sheffield Insulations, they have branches all over the country, check phone book for local depot. It has the texture of a Crunchie bar, not individual granular stuff as used for packing.  Used under concrete floors amongst other things so watch the building site for spare off-cuts etc.  I notice that www.papershipwright.co.uk/pf05/details.shtml  wharf/quayside model in their list. Could be handy for details and colours etc.  Any other sources of what we could adapt ?
 There was another with linkspan for rail ferries but I`ll have to find it again on another paper model site.
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 11:11:53 PM »

Hi ,
I used Blue foam to build the Bretange and then covered it in glass fibre mat and then epoxy resin instead of fibreglass resin , worked well and I got a hull in a short time.
I bought mine from a shop that specialises  in architectural modeling supplies called 4Models in central London , there are on line too.

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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2011, 02:30:46 AM »

Ah I know the stuff you mean. I might have a bit floating around here somewhere but its not going to be enough. fortunately  there is a branch of Sheffield Insulations in Norwich so I'll check it out. I'm presuming that you can use No More Nails to bond it to plywood.

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2011, 09:50:36 PM »

No More Nails ?  Never tried it..just the name puts me off %% ! I do like Gorilla Glue and use weatherproof wood glue Evostick wood glue in the BLUE plastic container  but it takes longer to dry on the blue foam. To seal outside for painting use a slightly thinned Evostick (15% water) to paste soaked brown wrapping paper over the foam , coat a couple of coats allowing to dry between each coat and you will have an egg-shell type skin ready to glass or just paint.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2011, 10:33:58 PM »

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I used Blue foam to build the Bretange

Get the name right for my favourite ferry, it's Bretagne and I'm off aboard her for the umpteenth time in a couple of weeks or so. A real classic ship.

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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2011, 11:21:08 PM »

GAWD you guys must all be multi millionaires using that blue foam......i can only goggle at the price of it.....45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice.....the mind boggles.

as for no more nails.........i just bought one of those new all improved aerosol pump action tins....luckily it was half price at 4.99 a tin.........it did precisely 15' of single line beading, in one line 6mm wide.......and then ran out.......and it didn't grab in the prescribed 10 seconds....took 12 hours to set properly..........WHAT AN ADVERTISING RIP OFF!!! and a waste of money.
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2011, 11:24:43 PM »

GAWD you guys must all be multi millionaires using that blue foam......i can only goggle at the price of it.....45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice.....the mind boggles.

as for no more nails.........i just bought one of those new all improved aerosol pump action tins....luckily it was half price at 4.99 a tin.........it did precisely 15' of single line beading, in one line 6mm wide.......and then ran out.......and it didn't grab in the prescribed 10 seconds....took 12 hours to set properly..........WHAT AN ADVERTISING RIP OFF!!! and a waste of money.

45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice............X 20 pieces!!!!!! = 2.25 sobs per piece.....

They come in packs of varying numbers depending on the thickness you want...
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2011, 09:39:01 AM »

The price of blue foam has rocketed over the years  but just to make you all weep <:( here are a couple of shots of the stash of DONATED blue foam that I got some years ago. Was about 32 per sheet at the time. Wonder how much it would be today %% !  Yes I do have a few pieces squirrelled away for future use. Thank you again Sheffield Insulations and the lady executive of the company, whose father served on the Ark Royal during WWII. It was she that gave me the start of my HMS Invincible model.  Also seen in one picture is the brown paper method of protecting the foam from attack by polyester resin.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2011, 09:52:08 AM »

Hmmm the last post got me thinking...blue foam, blue ship :embarrassed:   Anybody got plans for, or know where to get, plans for ex Rosyth ferry  "Scottish Viking".  It is now ploughing the Swedish Baltic coast.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2011, 06:25:55 PM »

Hi  everyone. I found this stuff on the Wicks web site. I want a closer look at this so I'm going down to my local branch to see if they have any. It may turn out to be the wrong stuff but if it can be used, What do you think of the price, is it good value?
http://www.wickes.co.uk/heavy-density-insulation/invt/161189/
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2011, 06:59:12 PM »

Doesn't seem right. There is mention of "itchy" in the revues and "heavy". Not polystyrene foam but might be a good sustitute. No mention of water absorbancy. Sheffield stuff is less than 1%.  Ask for a sample. :-))
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