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Re: Midieval Warship Resurrected
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2011, 08:53:25 PM »

At last The Bilge Strakes (Planks) the bilge strakes are the first planks that start the pronounced curve of the planking up toward the sheer strake (Last plank at the Wale [Gunwale top of the ships side]) Depending how horizontal the garboards are and how curved the bilge strakes this will make the vessel flat floored and beamy or narrow and sharp  I've done this card model fairly sharp like a whaler so I can use it as a ships boat but as you see no frames or ribs were used in the shaping of the Hull shall put two more strakes in then the ribs and the box gunwale so a few more days yet (No#1 Granddaughter permitting)







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« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »










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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2011, 08:12:53 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2011, 08:50:34 PM »

OK thats this exercise is almost completed (I'll just give it an under coat) As I said at the start this is the way I build a clinker hull, this works on cardboard hulls up to 30" (inches) long and I 've built built a sailing Viking (Dragon) ship that was 52" long from 32nd and 64th ply, this is to the best of my knowledge is still sailing after 26 years. These hulls are very strong, the card ones when given 6 to 8 coats of varnish ring like a bell when tapped with a finger nail and have lasted over 20 years as child's toys... I rest my case....
 I am hoping to finish Dragons Bane's refit in the next week or so ( working on the brace winch controls ) many thanks for all the interest and the e-mails
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Re: Midieval Warship Resurrected
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2011, 07:59:41 PM »

Card boat under coated






 OK I shall call this build closed ...It took just over 7 hrs (including photos ) building time and most of that was waiting for the glue to dry as I said its very easy to do and can be a nice model ---but as I also said this is only a rough model to show how its done, if you have any questions  ask away and I'll do my best to answer
 How --- on with Dragons Bane!
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« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2011, 08:12:56 PM »

Hi Jimmy,
Very neat method.
I used card to make the wee boat on my Black Rose. Was surprised at how easy it was, and how strong it became after painting.
Will try your method on a few more boats in the future.
Thanks so much for the build feature.
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« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2011, 12:02:37 PM »

hi JIMMY, what a great feature and so easy to follow ,by the way i also made my crew boat on my black rose as well
  bit not as good as yours or kiwis.......

 will have a go at another model when i find some thing suitable ....LARRY...
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« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2011, 12:43:53 PM »

Right Jimmy the theory of how you build your boats is quite straightforward. Cut accurately
all the planks and overlap them the same amount and you should have a nice hull BUT if I did it, I would have
two perfect half hulls that would assymetric.  How do you make the hull so it is the same on both sides. 
That is the hard part.  Do you you some kind of former or blank to mould it over??

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« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2011, 07:45:33 PM »

Geoff,
 when you plank up you allways do two planks at a time one on each side, even the planks up by eye and you won't go far wrong
believe me its a lot harder to describe it to someone than it is to do it
 Larry
I've had a lot more practise then you have, the "Rose" looks very good and as for the Boat It looks very like a punt (not the punting on the river type) which was a working boat still used as a tender on the island traders in the Caribbean
Kiwi 
 Nice looking jolly boat -- yes it is a very strong way to build.

 Thanks for the kind words all of you. I'm happy I could help out. I'll be carring on with Dragons Bane --Pix in a day or so
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« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2011, 08:04:39 PM »

THANK YOU JIMMY,  best of luck on your next build , your no 1 fan LARRY......... :-))
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« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2011, 08:00:50 PM »

Pix of the out riggers ,(carry the sheets clear of the ships side)  fair leads and Old Men (Sailors slang for a roller fair lead set on a post)  (Sheets the lines used to control the set of a sail) ..... As this vessel only spreads a single square sail  and the mast is set rather far foreward I've adopted  a combined sheet and brace to get her closer to the wind (More of this later)
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« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2011, 08:24:27 PM »

Part 2



 
 I will cover the standing and running rigging shortly,. No one really knows how these vessels were rigged and not having a crew I'm rigging as I think best using the capstan
 the rigging will be simple 1 each fore stay & back stay, 2 shrouds one to port , one to strb'd. there will be only one Halyard in the centre of the yard (which is two spars lashed togeather) there will also be two lifts to keep the yard arms level ....and of course the sheets to control the sail
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« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2011, 01:00:07 PM »

Some very rough drawings of the running and standing rigging.... I use hatters elastic (Like sheering elastic but heaver and stronger in black or white) it provides the needed tention on sheets but doesn't hit you in the eye like ordinary elastic bands would, and is long lasting (2 or 3 years { I have one boat which it has lasted over 5 years })
 I will try to get some detailed photos of the rigging...Blocks ,,,dead eyes ,,,,out riggers and so on later today
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« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2011, 01:27:25 PM »

As usual Captain Jimmy  ;D great explanations........thank you...& we can see you are again economising with printing or drawing on both sides of each page...... O0 {-) ....Derek
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« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2011, 07:43:22 PM »










Tonight I'll draw up diagrams for the sheet/braces leads ...Then there is the ballast keel to do ... Then if the Gods will kindly provide some suitable W/x and if Howes deliver the R/x & servos & de switch harness & if my magic picture box still works (lot of if's an't it) I might be able to post some pix of her sailing "IF" all goes ti plan.
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« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2011, 08:02:29 PM »

Derick W.
 Rrrr! Lad, me old Mother all ways told me  "Waste not - Want not"...Now I bet that will be a surprise to some (That I had a mother that is) as the rumours going round that I didn't, but was hatched in the bottom of an old rum bottle on the Spanish Main ,now this is clearly not true as I could never fit in a rum bottle (I know I've tried) BUT maybe a keg???
 Hic!!!
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« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2011, 06:33:36 AM »

The two coils of black & white are Hatters Elastic (so called because it is used in the making of hats & bonnets) It comes in 5 or 6 sizes the one displayed is a medium one , The pens , etc: are to give you an Idea of scale,,, the lanyards on the dead eyes are the smallest size,,,this is handy as you can stretch the lanyards to undo the hooks on the stays & shrouds and allowes the mast to be unshipped... I use a lot of it in rigging where tention and strength is needed it normanly lasts 3 to 5 years on my boats and it is basicly a heavy weight sheering elastic :-))
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« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2011, 10:19:45 AM »

HI JIMMY what is soures of haters elastic?      BLACK ROSE   sailed better lead on keel, i will make main sails to adjust by adding adjustable bowsies,     LARRY...



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« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2011, 07:33:33 PM »

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 Hatters elastic ... In Lynn I buy it from the Fent Shop,,, a Shop which sells cloth,and dress making gear, needles, thread,ribbons, buttons,etc: Habadashery is the word I'm looking for ask SHMBO she should know of such a shop around your way.
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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2011, 08:31:56 PM »

Larry
The "Rose " is gliding along nicely   I can see I shall have to look to my Laurels.. Better than hiding in the reeds isn't it , A very famous Lady once said," If you've got it Flaunt it". Well done.....      Will she tack ? or have you tried yet?
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« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2011, 08:54:47 PM »

thanks jimmy ,i have had her on steady tack , but loose the drive when it spills from the mains, As i said its back on slip for a bigger main sail and adjustable sheets  LARRY
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« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2011, 08:54:57 PM »

Back to "Dragons Bane"
 Here are two rigging diagrams the top one is the one I used mainly because the mast is set a bit too  far forward
 The 2nd Is the one I usuale use on my square riggers and it can help get a vessel 1/2 a point to a point closer to the wind (5.5 deg. to 11 1/2 deg.) and helps you sail faster as it hauls the Luff tight making a more efficient Aerofoil


 
Next will be the ballast keel which I intent to keep as simple as I can make it (Sheet lead)
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« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2011, 09:06:17 PM »

Larry
 I think that mizzen top sail is putting her out of balance. try sailing her with only the lateen mizzen (Maybe even inlarge it a bit ) you might gat better control
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