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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2011, 09:41:12 am »

     
HI JIMMY,    dont worry thats what grandads are fore  O0 hope the kids get well soon,
     taking BLACK ROSE  to pool to day , will  keep you posted.  LARRY w .
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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2011, 08:06:58 pm »

Thanks gang , its been another exhausting day at least the Boss is here to take up the slack... I wasn't planning on posting anything but managed to get some photos of my capstan installation on Freebooter (For controlling the yards and square sails) I'll use the same method on "Dragons Bane" Basically it's a geared motor (100/1)with the shaft sticking through the hatch (Direct drive) with the capstan drum bolted on to it ( the drum has part of a choc box connector glued into in it's the base , thats the grub screw you can see at the base of the drum) control is achieved by a home made bob's board glued on to a small servo with a sweep arm. It's not rocket science but cheap and reliable ,and it's one of my favorite ways of working square sails   For more info check in sail & yachting R&D Brigantine Freebooter





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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2011, 08:15:49 pm »










It's not pretty but it's seen a lot of hard work over the last 7 years and has never failed to perform.
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2011, 08:55:47 pm »

Sorry I should have made the wiring of the bobs board more clear .... The 2 wires on the sweep run to the motor .... the 2 wires on the board run to the battery....
 when the sweep is in the centre the motor is stopped ... When it is turned anti clockwise the motor runs one way ....when it is turned clock wise the motor turns the other way ...there is no slow or fast but at 100/1 gearing it's not fast but it is powerfull ...why 100/1 ? because it is the most realistic speed when swinging the yards
 
 I see one I missed on the thread "Sailing" about 4 1/2 points off the wind (1 Point = 11 1/4 deg. compass ) is the best she can do and that is with the yard braced up nearly Fore & Aft and making a lot of leeway ...she foots along quite nicely 5 points off the wind and skims along with a solders wind she ware's nicely but shes to light to tack I have almost done it 4 or 5 times by making sternway and reversing the helm but no luck ...having said that shes no slouch under sail and holds a dead straight course
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2011, 08:31:56 pm »

This vessels deck was never planked so I thought why not --- know I know why! cutting planking around the bulwark posts is a real pain#@&### after I got it all nice and sanded No 3 daughter gently pointed out that it looked nice enough to grace an Admiral's Barge but a bit out of place on a 13 century warship--- Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr '#&3#@???
  So now I have started gouging,  bashing and distressing it  (Don't you hate it when they are right)







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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2011, 08:51:46 pm »

 I had a PM asking how I make the ring bolts ---Basicly I get a bit of copper wire and wrap it around the shank of a small phillips screw driver like a spring - then pull the driver out and cut the rings, if they are to be working bolts  I soulder them and use a small split pin as a shank ... if you put the split pin through the deck and spread it it will take a lot of weight
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2011, 08:52:23 pm »

Hi Jimmy,
 What was that old saying?

"out of the mouths of babes"

Keep up the good work, is it the planks which are distressing or the fact that your dear grand-daughter was right.
You'll fix it to look right, and anyway looks good to me.
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ps them's ring bolts look good, will try them on my next build
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2011, 01:20:11 pm »

 Kiwi, Old trick ,the ring bolts, I use them all the time to lash blocks too, you can make them any size by using different size screw drivers as a mold, copper wire is best or maybe I should say, easiest to use and solder (Just saw I didn't spell check that last one "Blast") I use brass (When I can get them) split pins for the working ones, as they don't pull out under a load, and just a "u" shaped bit of wire on the ones that are just for show
 Right time to show how I made the hull I'm using a corn flake box for the construction so the keel,  stem and stern posts will be laminated of 3 bits of card and unlike a wooden keel will not have a keelson ...I use a lot of paper clips (Marvelous invention for model boaters very under rated)as clamps, you can bend them into all kinds of shapes ---I'm not going to try to make this neat and tidy but show my way of doing it I 32nd or 64th ply or how you can make ships boats (A4 stiff paper)
 Remember this hull will be built with out frames or a mold ,,,Frames if needed can be added later
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2011, 01:47:05 pm »

The centre of the keel, stem & stern posts sits proud so it can act as a rebate to glue the planks to
 The garboard strakes (Planks next to the keel) are next they are the only planks that do not taper toward the ends





 Don't know if you can see how the paper clips have been bent to hold the plank at 90deg. to the keel ...This plank is only glued in the centre 2/3as when the glue dries the planks will be twisted and glued to the stem & stern posts and to the rest of the keel
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2011, 02:10:26 pm »

Loving it!  :-))

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2011, 05:00:28 pm »

HI JIMMY; what great post , i still say theres a book in you, :-))
    by the way    launched BLACK ROSE, went quite well until hit a cross wind , then turned into a sub.
 not enough lead on false keel. Must work on making deck access hatches more water tight O0 LARRY,....
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2011, 08:35:19 pm »

Larry have you thought of adding a periscope?  Joking aside did you recover the Rose OK ? I don't suppose you have photographic evidence? Oh well better luck next time
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2011, 08:52:56 pm »

HI JIMMY, sorry mate no time for photos ,to busy recovering good job it was at arms and a shallow pool ,
 and the good news no damage,, but the sail control worked ,  O0LARRY
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2011, 09:45:35 pm »

 Glad of the no damage, these gusts are bad news for square riggers even on the full sized ships you have to be ready to shiver the sails when a gust hits and never turn into the wind but turn down wind  and let her pick up speed (on a full sized square rigger you risk taking the spars out of the ship if you get caught aback ---in a model its almost allways a capsize ... I water proof my hatches with Vaseline or petroleum jelly
 Sailing square riggers is not like sailing a fore and after,  if you get a gust of wind in a fore & aft rig you let fly and turn into the wind... on a square rig shiver the after sails [Main & Mizzen] square the fore sails and get her before the wind.... one of the golden rules is shorten sail before you need too  (Reef down or take the the T'Gallants and Top Sails off )
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2011, 10:01:07 pm »

Weather from the met office (Free)

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/surface_pressure.html

1) shipping forecast   click on the area close to where you live  ie: Humber for Norfolk
For local forecast,  on left side of page,  click on pressure forecast map,  then click on UK Forecast  (left hand side of page)

A small map of UK  (RAC) should come up ,   Click on the area of the map where you live,  select the time ,  date and info you require
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2011, 07:56:24 pm »

Carring on with the planking --- The garboards have been partly glued to the keel (The ends have not yet been glued) so know we twist the garboards mark cut and glue them. this is the hardest job if it goes wrong start again








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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2011, 08:41:12 pm »

THANKS JIMMY, for info on weather, nice to see you carrying on with cereal  {-)  build sorry for pun .
  got my printer at the ready,  :-)) LARRY......
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2011, 09:29:23 pm »

Print Away----










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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 08:44:06 pm »

Next 2nd & 3rd planks  This is all very easy just clip the plank in position mark and cut the ends always start glue in the centre of the plank and keep at least 1/8" (inch) overlap in the centre . at the ends you can overlap a bit more--- "but never less"  try to keep the planking on the opposite side level









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Bilge strake tomorrow Jimmy
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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2011, 11:16:08 pm »

sorry new capstan to be mounted







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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2011, 11:23:38 pm »





Barrell is made from a from a small wooden drawer knob


sorry about the change  Bilge planks tomorrow (I Hope)
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