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Tug-Kenny

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Mystery man on Mystery ship
« on: May 13, 2011, 08:10:42 PM »


We came across this photograph that belonged to a  'late'  maiden Aunt.

We cannot identify the man but thought of you knowledgeable folks and wondered if you can identify his uniform. As a sideline and to make it boaty, we were wondering what type of ship is he on and what sort of date would it be.

No prizes, but it could be her late wartime boyfriend which she lost.    <:(

Hope you can help in some small way.

Ken

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Re: Mystery man on Mystery ship
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 08:16:35 PM »

Looks like a Royal Marine uniform and looks likely to be either a battleship or heavy cruiser by the turrets but I'm not 100% sure on that
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 08:42:21 PM »

Agree with Davie definitely Royal Marine uniform of the WWII era - in those days it was tradition for
one turret (either X or Y) to be manned by the RM - those guns look too big for a cruiser, I did think about
it being Hood but not enough detail in photo to decide

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 08:46:39 PM »


Hey guys, you've whetted my appetite here.  A Marine eh and he has some medals.

Wonder if he went down with his ship.

Thank you for the info so far

ken

 
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 08:49:53 PM »

The image could even pre-date WWII looking at the RM uniform.

But the Blanco leakage around the belt!! What's he been doing??

There's also a suspicion of blue top left of the photo, has somebody been playing around with Photoshop?

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 08:52:46 PM »

If it were possible to identify his Medals ,that would give an idea of his record. I do understand that picture
quality may not allow this.John
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 08:57:44 PM »

That looks like a Royal Sovereign Class battleship.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 09:04:46 PM »

In my extremely limited knowledge of things "upper deck", I would say the guns are 14" and the fact that the muzzles have blast bags should make it slightly easier to identify.  No crested tompions to give a clue either.

But, are the guns A & B or X & Y?? %)

Royal Sovereign class could be right Brian. :-))

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Re: Mystery man on Mystery ship
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 09:06:20 PM »

The image could even pre-date WWII looking at the RM uniform.

But the Blanco leakage around the belt!! What's he been doing??

There's also a suspicion of blue top left of the photo, has somebody been playing around with Photoshop?

Yarpie.

Hi Yarpie

On the original, the blue is the remnants of a peeled off ribbon.    more  <:(

The Blanco illusion is on the original . I have put the original untouched photo (except by her fair hand) on to gather as many clues as possible.

Fascinating stuff

John, Here is blow up of the medals. oh dear

Also not obvious in the picture is the drawing pin hole through the top of leg.           A pin up, I would guess.   :}

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 09:22:33 PM »

just a guess but I would imagine it is X and Y turrets in the picture - people like to get photographed in their
own "part of ship" and the crested tompions being missing made me think it was wartime. But as I said
only a guess.  Turrets do seem to have the same shape as the Royal sovereign class,


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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 11:32:36 PM »

The vertical metal structure to the lower right of the marine is too light for the foredeck so would agree we are seeing X & Y turrets..,.we also see an unbolted round cowling on the deck to the left so the photograph would not have been taken in any official manner....just a snap for loved ones  O0.....Derek
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Re: Mystery man on Mystery ship
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 10:31:32 AM »


Good detecting Derek.  Very observant

The trouble is no one is alive of that generation in our family, so it will remain a mystery.

Cheers

ken

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 06:21:46 PM »

  Does the cuff insignia indicate that he was a captain RM?
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 06:36:11 PM »

I don't think so Jonty - that I believe is RM dress uniform.  If he were a Captain he would have 3 pips on his
shoulders and I can't see them.
He has something just above the buttons on his cuffs it is either a long service stripe or a wound stripe.

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2011, 07:21:05 PM »

long service stripe  army and raf had them about 1949  1950  one stripe raf was for 5 years if i remember
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2011, 07:38:58 PM »

Navy and I assume RM each stripe was four years - after 3 stripes you then got your LSM at 15 yrs.

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2011, 08:43:54 PM »

 All you guys  with this detective work ,fasinating stuff , you Navy fellas know the parts o k .I reckon the owner of said photo has had more info than a well known programme great ,keep it goin ,
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2011, 11:03:23 PM »

They don't need any encouragement Dave!
Next they'll have a "Who is this" thread, featuring some ancient black and white photo of someone stood at the docks, and you'll have to guess who it was, what ship he was on, what dock was it, and worst of all ....................................
I'll be joining in !!!!   %) %%

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 11:07:57 PM »

Thats the spirit Danny.....now who started this thread?   :o %) ...yes it was Captain Ken  :-)) .... {-) ...Derek
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 11:13:15 PM »

Excellent, whose go is it next ??  {:-{
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2011, 09:49:25 AM »

Excellent, whose go is it next ??  {:-{

Thank you everyone. That concludes this man.

Like Dicky D says, Who wants to go next ?   :-))

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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2011, 11:14:03 AM »

Thanks Ken....here is a snap from OZ........but clearly not an OZ Naval commander......... :} .......so who is he?.........Derek

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Re: Mystery man on Mystery ship
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2011, 02:34:41 PM »

Is that the king on the right?
If so that could be the commander of the ship that carried the king to Oz on a royal visit.
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2011, 09:26:45 PM »

No TT...not the King

The date of the photograph was July 28th 1919 & was taken in Australian waters...the officer at that time had attained the following awards

Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath
Order of Merit
Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order

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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2011, 10:46:27 PM »

Mountbatten ?
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