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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #300 on: October 28, 2012, 05:46:49 PM »

The new wire has arrived and I'm heroically modelling in the face of a horrible cold and a sore back.  What a martyr to the cause I am!  Is there a medal for such dedication?

Anyway, the wire I had at first was 1.5mm, the new stuff's 1mm only and seems better.  It still looks the part but is much more workable.



The deadeyes have set into the wire much more neatly.  I've not attached the lower ones yet so it's jury rigged into position for now.  As mentioned before (I hope you've been paying full attention  <*< ) I will bind the bindings with some sort of white/cream cordage.  I'm wondering about trying embroidery silks for this job.  I'll be able to get some subtle colour and can separate the strands to get the thickness I want.  I'm also wondering about using it for the lines between the deadeyes...it's quite strong stuff.



Up at the hounds, we should have to separate eyes but I've decided to do a single split splice between the two shrouds.  This is to reduce the thickness of the wire around the hounds...I don't want it getting too bulky.  Obviously, there are ends to trim yet.  8)
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #301 on: October 29, 2012, 11:40:59 AM »

All the fixed rigging has been made now to the first stage at least.



Bottle screw courtesy of RBModel. They share my initials so they must be good  :}



I'm always amazed at how much these little things make a model look "right" and I've not been disappointed here.

Now I have to figure out how to make the brackets to hold the lower deadeyes.  No rest for the wicked, eh?  :P
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #302 on: October 29, 2012, 12:12:23 PM »

Nicely done, very neat.
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I've made a bit of a gaff
« Reply #303 on: October 31, 2012, 10:45:41 AM »

No, honestly, I've made a gaff and I'm proud of it!  {-)

According to Nick Miller's book, the gaff's quite a complex spar, starting (at my idiosyncratic scale) at 9mm at the mast, widening to 10mm in the middle and then narrowing to only 7.5mm at the far end.  :o   I know I've posted about spar making before but please excuse me for repeating myself; there don't seem to be many posts about it on here and somebody might find it useful.

So, one starts with square stock, planed down to slightly over the maximum diameter:



I used my Peter Plane (my favourite tool) to reduce the square sections to those listed above.  The spar gauge is then used and, by its nature, copes with the change of section.

Then, the spar is planed down to the pencil lines giving it an octagonal section.  After that the new edges are planed again to get closer to a round.  I did this by eye but with full size spars I understand then often mark them again.



If you click on the first of the above pictures you should be able to make out the taper. By the second it's ready for sanding.



So here it is, round(ish) and sanded and tapered  :-))
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« Reply #304 on: November 14, 2012, 05:05:28 PM »

I've made my first, prototype block  :-))



This is the gaff uphaul block...real one shown here:



I'm quite pleased with my first try.  It work very nicely.  Of course, it needs cleaning up and a drop of varnish spreading about....and some rust adding  >>:-(
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #305 on: November 14, 2012, 05:13:35 PM »


Looks great :-))

Come on then only 20 more to make %%

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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #306 on: November 14, 2012, 05:30:06 PM »

 That's Perfick. Jerry.

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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #307 on: November 15, 2012, 08:40:35 PM »

really good  :-))
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #308 on: November 15, 2012, 08:43:58 PM »

Thanks chaps  :embarrassed:

And Ned, don't be silly! Now I've made one I'll simply send it to China to be copied and mass produced for 5p a go.  {-)
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #309 on: November 24, 2012, 10:41:51 PM »

Hi Rob,


You do know Nick Miller is a local man- have you met him at all when you've been hanging around HoO? He's a very nice guy, with heaps of knowledge on local boats- he gave me couple of handy bits for my 1:1 Windermere Skiff. He's also a naval architect, so is a very handy guy to know when it comes to modelling. Oh, and he also builds models...!


I can pass on your email to him if you wish, I'm sure he would be in touch. He might pop in at my regatta next year too, so he can see her on the water when you bring her to Coniston in May!


I'm pleased your rigging is coming together so well, it will absolutely make the boat.


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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #310 on: November 25, 2012, 01:20:30 PM »

Hi Greg!

No, I didn't know Nick Miller was a local man...although it doesn't surprise me.  I don't know if I've bumped into him at HoO meetings but I've taken that book and nobody jumped up and claimed to have written it  {-)

By all means pass on my email.

Today, I am tidying up the standing rigging...photos to follow soon  :-))
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #311 on: November 25, 2012, 02:20:15 PM »

As promised to Greg...

Here is the forestay:



As you can see (and as I think I suggested) I didn't try to splice the tiny wires but rather bound them with copper thread (from speaker cable cores) and then soldered them.  In the above picture, they are at the stage of having been filed down to a sensible shape...my soldering having been a little creative :embarrassed:



Then I painstakingly bound each one with cordage...as per the original.  I had bought some Amati 1.6mm hemp rigging rope for the working rigging and split some of this into the four cores to use for this purpose.  It looks quite convincing I think.  I have to admit to cutting corners again by super-gluing the ends rather than finishing the whippings off properly.

The following "clicky" thumbnails show the top of the forestay at the hounds and two of the finished deadeyes...all finished in the same manner.

 
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #312 on: November 25, 2012, 07:24:51 PM »

Very nice, well done that man!
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #313 on: November 30, 2012, 11:15:10 AM »

So, all of the 2mm nuts and bolts finally arrived so the rigging is UP!!  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))



A very old tin of aluminium paint is going service as a galvanised finish on the brass work.

And before anyone mentions it: yes, I know that my rope work betwixt the deadeyes is not the "proper" way to do it. It is, however, the way it's been done on the real boat.

Anyway, as a totally objective observer, I'm very chuffed with the finish indeed!  O0

Next, I think that the wooden jaws for the boom and the metal saddle for the gaff are in order.
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #314 on: November 30, 2012, 11:55:19 AM »

so you should be chuffed ........chuffed to bits.............it's beautiful, and giving me a great deal of info as to how to rig my lifeboat.
cheers.
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #315 on: December 02, 2012, 09:11:51 PM »

Well Rob, your next mission is for sale :-)) ;


www.intheboatshed.net/2012/11/23/nobby-quest-for-sale-whitehaven/#


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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #316 on: December 05, 2012, 07:54:16 PM »

Manfully ignoring Greg's attempts to get me to buy real boats to take to his regatta, I have pressed on with the Nobby.  ;)



I have whittled the jaws for the boom!  As this is a working part, and potentially subject to some forces, I decided to make it out of ply.  To this end, I laminated to thin pieces together before cutting the two jaw halves.  This will result in something that doesn't bear close inspection by rivet counters but should serve it's purpose. :embarrassed:   It needs pegging for added gumption and the other end of the boom needs the thingumies that I can't think of the name for.....sort of half violin shaped things with sheaves in that are part of the sail reefing system.  I can't be bothered to dig out a book and look it up right now. <*<

I've also started on the saddle fittings for the gaff...as you can see.

My progress has been slow this last week or so since I have been doing proper canoeing at the weekends...which has resulted in me needing to make modifications to our wooden canoe instead of getting on with proper work. {-)
 
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #317 on: December 06, 2012, 05:03:34 PM »

Very nice, and where was the pic from the proper canoe taken?
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #318 on: December 06, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »

Very nice, and where was the pic from the proper canoe taken?

It was taken on the tongue-twistingly named Blelham Beck where it runs through the NT's Low Wray Campsite into the North West corner of Lake Windermere.
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« Reply #319 on: December 06, 2012, 09:46:56 PM »

It was taken on the tongue-twistingly named Blelham Beck where it runs through the NT's Low Wray Campsite into the North West corner of Lake Windermere.
For those of us a little further away and with pretty sketchy geography, that is in the north west corner of England.
Looks a lovely spot, thanks for sharing...
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #320 on: December 06, 2012, 11:11:20 PM »

Shame you weren't there the week before- you could have paddled up to the front door of Wray Castle from there (well, almost!)


A great paddle in summer- it feels like going through a rainforest- a great campsite too, sorry for unabashed NT publicising!


Good to see you getting some on-the-water time.


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« Reply #321 on: December 06, 2012, 11:12:19 PM »

For those of us a little further away and with pretty sketchy geography, that is in the north west corner of England.
Looks a lovely spot, thanks for sharing...
It certainly is, and a little  quizz here for all those who know the English Lake district, and those who think they might, and Rob and gondolier88 are  barred from answering this question...............
How many lakes are there in the English Lake District.........only ONE  answer per person..........get yer atlas's out.
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« Reply #322 on: December 06, 2012, 11:30:15 PM »

one!
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Re: Nobby - Morecambe Bay Prawner
« Reply #323 on: December 06, 2012, 11:33:42 PM »

 {-)  Too many Cumbrianites on here obviously!
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« Reply #324 on: December 06, 2012, 11:41:55 PM »

{-)  Too many Cumbrianites on here obviously!
Oh Bummer...............forgot about him {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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