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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1200 on: December 19, 2017, 01:57:45 PM »

Just imagine the dribble coming out of a tap if you wanted to fill the bath in an hour. One matelot with a bucket could empty that bath in a couple of minutes!


As has been said, that's why ships have bilge pumps!


Total non-story.
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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1201 on: December 19, 2017, 02:08:38 PM »

This is what I hate about journalists. They sensationalise anything to make a headline, especially if it is about defense and spending 3 odd billion quid on what they see as a white elephant. Let's see what happens if something kicks off and we need to defend ourselves and we had no way of doing it......they will be the first lot waving the white flag or bemoaning the state of our armed forces.
FFS.........we need someone in power that will stand up to these pandering bufoons, really gets my goat up.


Anywho, small dribble on a seal........am sure this is normal and sure that the incredible skill of the engine room boys can sort it. They are not the best in the world for nothing.
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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1202 on: December 19, 2017, 06:14:12 PM »

From the info locally she will need a docking to reset the inflatable seal.
Isn't that what trials are for?


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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1203 on: December 19, 2017, 07:07:39 PM »

It can be done underwater if the damage isn't to bad.
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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1204 on: December 19, 2017, 07:24:32 PM »

It can be done underwater if the damage isn't to bad.


It’s very impressive to see a habitat built around the shaft and the seals replaced in situ. I did have a video somewhere, but I lost it.
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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1205 on: December 20, 2017, 07:00:35 PM »

I heard, from a 'different' source that the leak is the result of a shaft 15mm out of perfect alignment.


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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1206 on: December 21, 2017, 01:37:03 AM »

Andy...without being cynical, this 15mm shaft axis out of wack sounds like 'Pub talk'  {-).....in this day and age, digital laser alignment is the norm....[even for British built vessels].........

The HMS Queen Elizabeth QA build records on such matters would have been signed off by a number of Builder Certified and Registered professional Engineers. Such alignment checks during Certification would also have been physically witnessed by RN Engineers   

Shaft seal leakage on sizable vessels 10,000 to 100,000 tonne displacement is not an uncommon occurrence.....just ask any sea going ships Engineer....remember, it was only a $20.00 o-ring that created the catastrophic failure of the US Challenger Space Shuttle

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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1207 on: December 21, 2017, 06:09:33 AM »

Failed due to the weather........outside design parameters for the O seal
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« Reply #1208 on: December 21, 2017, 08:36:39 AM »

I don't know but surely a 15mm misalignment on a shaft that big and it's liable the shake it's self to bits, isn't?
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« Reply #1209 on: December 21, 2017, 11:46:03 AM »

Wouldn't it be good to hear some sensible news reports on this vessel....[apart from 'Pub talk'>>:-(  .........Derek
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Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth
« Reply #1210 on: December 21, 2017, 12:47:19 PM »

Wouldn't it be good to hear some sensible news reports on this vessel....[apart from 'Pub talk'>>:-(  .........Derek


 Best Bet     [size=1005]hms-queen-elizabeth-a-large-and-convenient-media-target[/size]
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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1211 on: December 21, 2017, 01:11:51 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/oct/20/only-remaining-ship-from-first-world-war-gallipoli-landing-opened-to-public
HMS M.33, a monitor ship, Gallipoli ship to be opened to the public in Portsmouth next year. Thanks to lottery funds.
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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1212 on: December 21, 2017, 01:20:10 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/oct/20/only-remaining-ship-from-first-world-war-gallipoli-landing-opened-to-public
HMS M.33, a monitor ship, Gallipoli ship to be opened to the public in Portsmouth next year. Thanks to lottery funds.


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Says its been open to the Public since Summer 2016


https://www.nmrn.org.uk/exhibitions-projects/monitor-hms-m33

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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1213 on: December 21, 2017, 02:13:16 PM »

It has indeed and I have been aboard twice! I wrote an article for Model Boats.

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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1214 on: December 21, 2017, 04:14:50 PM »


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Says its been open to the Public since Summer 2016


https://www.nmrn.org.uk/exhibitions-projects/monitor-hms-m33
   




Yes your absolutely correct. Looking at the Guardian article, it says that the article is 3 years old. I am not sure why it on the main page of the website.
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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1215 on: December 21, 2017, 05:11:23 PM »

Always interesting why the Navy gets bad publicity, I take the rest of the armed forces are in perfect operational condition  >>:-(
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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1216 on: December 21, 2017, 05:59:35 PM »







Yes your absolutely correct. Looking at the Guardian article, it says that the article is 3 years old. I am not sure why it on the main page of the website.


But still iinteresting..

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« Reply #1217 on: December 22, 2017, 02:18:47 AM »

Thanks Baldrick......this is I consider to appear as a factual report...it also exposes the Journalistic bias  <*< against the RN  ...... Derek
 

extract from http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/hms-queen-elizabeth-a-large-and-convenient-media-target/

"By midday, the BBC website and more serious news outlets were leading on this story and the general public, having been continuously drip-fed negative news on HMS Queen Elizabeth might be forgiven for thinking we have a leaky aircraft carrier with no aircraft. Journalists insist this routine occurrence is a big “story” and doubtless, their editors are very happy with them. It is a story because they have made it so, taking a small fact out of context and magnifying its significance is how one of the less reputable aspects of journalism works. There are several very good defence journalists who have been helpful to the navy’s cause, particularly in the recent current defence funding crisis, but in this instance, the media is making something out of nothing and misleading the public"
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Re: In the News !!!
« Reply #1218 on: December 22, 2017, 07:47:45 AM »

We need Desmond Wettern, late defence correspondent for the Telegraph. I shared a cabin with him on exercise in a minesweeper many years ago in another life. A really genuine, knowledgeable
and respected news man.
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« Reply #1219 on: December 23, 2017, 10:34:11 AM »

Just when I thought the Instagram/Twitter/Facebook generation couldn't get any more self-absorbed and crass, here's a snippet from the Beeb's website. You couldn't make it up...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42415394

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« Reply #1220 on: December 23, 2017, 12:11:23 PM »

Stop the planet I want to get off.  <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
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« Reply #1221 on: December 23, 2017, 12:39:20 PM »

Now I understand the expression ''So far up one's self''  :((
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« Reply #1222 on: December 23, 2017, 12:40:38 PM »


Don't  know if  that's  more sad, worrying or scary!!



 
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« Reply #1223 on: December 23, 2017, 01:16:08 PM »

Just read the article & this quote had me in stitches.... Do they mean what I think!!! %% %%


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« Reply #1224 on: December 23, 2017, 01:18:41 PM »



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