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Potential new battery type soon
« on: September 10, 2011, 03:49:21 pm »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14852073

Jelly batteries: Safer, cheaper, smaller, more powerful
By Hamish Pritchard Science Reporter

A new polymer jelly could be the next big step forward for lithium batteries.

The jelly replaces the volatile and hazardous liquid electrolyte currently used in most lithium batteries.

Researchers from the University of Leeds hope their development leads to smaller, cheaper and safer gadgets.

Once on the market, the lithium jelly batteries could allow lighter laptop computers, and more efficient electric cars.

In 2006, Dell recalled four million laptop batteries because of concerns that they might catch fire. Dell replaced them with batteries that used lower-performance electrodes, but these batteries were significantly larger.

Battery size still dictates the size and weight of most laptops, say the developers of the new battery.

Electronics manufacturer Apple got around the safety problem for their lightweight laptops with a solid polymer electrolyte, but in doing so, the power output of the computers suffered.

Overheating is also an issue for electric cars. Developers have had to use reinforced, steel-clad battery housings, multiple fuses and circuits to protect the battery during charging. All of these contribute to the cost and weight, and hence efficiency, of electric cars.
Thermal runaway

The newly developed jelly batteries should prevent "thermal runaway", during which batteries can reach hundreds of degrees and catch fire.

The Leeds-based researchers are promising that their jelly batteries are as safe as polymer batteries, perform like liquid-filled batteries, but are 10 to 20% the price of either.

The secret to their success lies in blending a rubber-like polymer with a conductive, liquid electrolyte into a thin, flexible film of gel that sits between the battery electrodes.

"The polymer gel looks like a solid film, but it actually contains about 70% liquid electrolyte," explained the study's lead author, Professor Ian Ward from the University of Leeds.

"The remarkable thing is that we can make the separation between the solid and liquid phase at the point that it hits the electrodes.

"Safety is of paramount importance in lithium batteries. Conventional lithium batteries use electrolytes based on organic liquids; this is what you see burning in pictures of lithium batteries that catch fire. Replacing liquid electrolytes by a polymer or gel electrolyte should improve safety and lead to an all-solid-state cell," said Professor Peter Bruce from the University of St Andrews, who was not involved in the study.

Professor Ian Ward spoke to Quentin Cooper about his battery breakthrough on BBC Radio 4's Material World.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 06:39:13 pm »

Sounds promising. Another step foreward.Interesting that its a British developement. No prizes for guessing that the actual Batteries will not be made here.John.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 10:03:16 pm »

Fantastic news for the manufacturers, but I cannot see us consumers getting much of their huge savings passed onto us.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 11:04:53 pm »

Sounds promising. Another step foreward.Interesting that its a British developement. No prizes for guessing that the actual Batteries will not be made here.John.

The patent for Lithium battery technolgy is held by a British company, they licensed it to Sony, who then license it out to other companies :-))
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 09:11:24 am »

The patent for Lithium battery technolgy is held by a British company, they licensed it to Sony, who then license it out to other companies :-))
I suspect that the search for new technology is less to do with improving things for customers, with safer, smaller, lighter , higher capacity batteries, than the urge to get past the existing patents.  Any cost benefits are likely to be diverted to the legal profession for quite some time.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 05:29:09 pm »

Just read this on the BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14852073

Looks like there could be a new type of lipo battery in the future with a higher power to weight ratio and safer too.  :-) :-)
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 09:10:59 am »

Have a look at the link in the opening post.............
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 08:57:46 am »

And work continues with 'Super Capacitance'.......http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4657662
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 10:16:53 am »

That could be very significant - if I could understand a word of it

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2011, 11:53:01 am »

And work continues with 'Super Capacitance'.......http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4657662

2000 amps would do me John. :}


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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2011, 12:04:30 pm »

2000 amps would do me John. :}


ken

But its only for a few microseconds, not much run time.  It isn't a power supply as such, just a device to help more conventional batteries punch above their weight under conditions of instant very high load.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2011, 01:40:31 pm »

 {-) I am only pottering in steam but do remember .....'ohms' law ........  :police: .....Derek
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2011, 05:10:59 pm »


Panasonic Techniks used to use 1 farad capacitors in their electronic organs as a memory backup supply.  When several were paralleled up they kept a 5 volt supply running for weeks before a re-charge and had a life of about 10 years.

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