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Boughtonfields

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Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« on: September 20, 2011, 05:27:08 PM »

Hello All,
Here goes then - my first ever model boat build and it's going to be the Yorkshireman from Modelslipway (the old version of the kit)

I must say, the kit looks good but there are thousands of bits & pieces
(well maybe not thousands, but it looks like it!)

First job must be to sort out whats what and read the instructions (again)

Although I've not started yet, already I have some questions...

I guess before I go too mad I'm going to need to think about electrics & where it's all going to fit.
I have a copy of 'Action Electronics' suggested setup for the Yorkshireman comprising:
P102 PWR Dist Board
P94 Dual ESC & Mixer
P93 Mulit Controller
P95/2 & P95/1 Fuse boards

Would you think this the best setup? Are there others I should consider?
I'd like to keep it fairly straight-forward and uncomplicated and the Action Electronics setup looks like it'll fit the bill, but I'd welcome your suggestions.

Then for the radio control...

Basically I have no idea what I should get!
I guess 4 channel would be sensible (for future proofing)
I'd be grateful if you could suggest makes/models of radio gear for me.
Budget isn't too much of a problem. I'd like the kit to be simple to setup & use, robust & reliable.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 06:11:59 PM »

You cant go wrong if you use the ACTion electrics, thats the way I went, its excellent and Dave is very helpful should you have problems or need advice.

If you are going to use 2.4 radio control the cheaper end of the market can be problem with ACTion P94.

I run mine on 2 channel 40 megs which you can pick up dead cheap nowadays.

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Boughtonfields

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 07:44:52 PM »

Action Electronics it is then. They do seem to get quite a lot of praise on here!

So (according to google) 2.4Ghz is the 'future', so is there a good 2.4 radio set you'd recommend?
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 10:37:02 PM »

I have a Planet5 which is fine for ordinary use but I havent tried it with the P94 yet.

Did try with the Giant Cod but had problems with set up of P94.

Have a word with Dave at ACTion, he'll be able to help you.
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MikeA

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 11:14:19 PM »

have you built any models before??
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 07:44:22 AM »

so is there a good 2.4 radio set you'd recommend?

Hitec Optic 6 would be my choice, both for quality and value. Avoid the Futaba 6J for the time being - there are issues with their s-FHSS system which haven't been resolved yet e.g. only four of the 6 channels work if you opt for s-FHSS instead of FHSS + our P94 is not currently compatible with this particular set. Cheap Chinese sets are OK but some have questionable QC and widely-varying signal pulse widths @ neutral. Some also have limited range.
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Boughtonfields

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2011, 04:57:55 PM »

Thanks for the tips everyone!

Jackie - got your message - many thanks.
Mad Mike - not really done a great deal of modelling, just as a lad really (many moons ago!). Built some Airfix kits and got into control line model aircraft for a while.
I am a 'practical' type of person doing various maintenance/electrical jobs over the years, so I'm hoping those skills will transfer to the model, but don't doubt I'll get stuck plenty!
Dave - thanks for the info. I'll hopefully be giving you a ring to order the bits soon.
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 07:59:51 AM »

keep us posted then  :}
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Boughtonfields

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 04:52:09 PM »

Quick update...

Ordered the radio control gear over the weekend - Hitec Optic 6 2.4GHz
Ordered the 'standard' setup from Action Electronics today - P93, P94, Dist Board & Fuse boards as per their drawing on the website.
Also picked up a bow thruster (Robbe 1155) from a boot fair for 50p!

Also had a good look at most of the parts in the kit and I don't really think this is a 'dining table' project.
Might have to delay things a little while I find a nook or cranny to act as the workshop...
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 05:34:53 PM »

Radio Gear arrived - very posh it looks too. Just a shame the instruction manual is completely incomprehensible!
Never mind, I turned it on, wiggled the sticks and the servos move - setup complete!

Action Electronics arrived too. Ordered Monday, delivered Tuesday - top service.

Spares from Model Slipway arrived too (thanks Jackie)

So with all this gear in my hands, I just have to build a workbench somewhere and it'll be time to get started...
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Boughtonfields

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 02:45:45 PM »

Well I think everything is in place.
Not the largest workbench, but all I can fit in my little house!
Must be time to make a start...
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 04:32:22 PM »

cracking workspace. i working on the kitchen table cos my house is small too.
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 04:00:58 PM »

Well I've finally made a start and have gone a bit mad before I remembered to take some photos!

Started with a stand. Just some MDF from the shed, some foam (shed) and gaffer tape to hold the foam on.
I'll make a 'nice' stand when it's complete.
Running gear was a complete nightmare. The assembly is simple enough, but figuring out how to glue it all together and end up with it lined up & pointing in the right direction was a challenge.
Must've put it together 10 times dry before I set about it with the araldite. The rear uprights (that centre the propshafts) were cast for me by a mate as they were missing from the kit. Considering he made them from scratch with mostly guesswork I thought they came out superb. The beers were on me!
Put a rough coat of red oxide on the see how it looks,and I don't think it's too bad!
Also glued in the propshafts & covers, drilled many holes in the hull for portholes etc and roughed out holes for the bow thruster.

Few pics below & I'll keep you up to date!

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 04:17:47 PM »

A fair bit done there already so great progress

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cracking workspace. i working on the kitchen table cos my house is small too

I once even air brushed in the kitchen thinking I could do it so neatly and contain any overspray against a cardboard box backing plate.  Wrong.  The wife was pretty good about it I have to say, so fair play to her she could have gone really mad. But, as it was she didnt go too much overboard, on the third day the swelling was going down and I could open my eyes a little bit.  On the fourth day I could move my arm and after a week I managed to pee properly.
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 04:10:33 PM »


Worked overnight last night so had some time to myself this afternoon to do a bit more...

Put the Robbe bow thruster together which was easy, but the design seemed a bit over complicated?
Still, as I got it for 50p from a boot fair, I can't complain!

Thought I'd add some support for the motor body, rather than have it 'hanging' on the tubes.
Once glued in though, the support looks rather unnessecary - don't think it'll ever come out though!

Used P40 to glue the thruster in (seen it used elseware in this forum) and P38 for the filler.
I'll wait for it all to set nice & hard before I start sanding - must be time for a cuppa...

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 04:25:38 PM »

Will you be able to get at the screws on the thruster when the deck is on?
I have found with a few models it has been very hard to get at the motor
unless the unit is tilted back a bit.
Murphy's Law If you can't get to it, it goes wrong!

Otherwise  it's looking good so far

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Boughtonfields

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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 04:58:24 PM »

Hi Ned,
I very much doubt it.
After much thought, I decided just to mount it vertical.
Even at an angle, it would be a nightmare to get at.
Also wondered about water getting up to the motor so with it vertical the motor sits higher, so should be further above the waterline.

I guess if it packs up - I'll have to lump it!

It's all sanded now...
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 12:57:03 AM »

looks like you are off to a nice start.. keep the photos comoing there shipmate.  :-)) 
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2011, 05:29:35 PM »

Done a little bit more...
Mounted the rudder servo and rudder linkages:



Made a ply box to keep the battery secure & mounted the motors to each side of the box & pwr dist board to one end.
Thought I'd put the receiver at the other end - away from all the main electrics?







Could then mount the main electrics on a board between the batt box & thruster?



Just waiting for some cable (going to use 25amp car cable) to wire it all up!
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2011, 05:32:16 PM »

Oh! Little pictures! Sorry!
(Don't know what happened there)
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2011, 05:43:35 PM »

No, they're OK, just double click the photos for the larger size!

BTW, you might want to use a more substantial link for the servo > tiller rod....
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2011, 02:46:31 PM »

I grant you - they look a bit flimsy in the pic, but both rods are stainless steel.

The rod from the servo to rudder, although cranked is very stiff and operates the rudders without any flex.

It looks ok to me, but what would you recommend I used?
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2011, 10:52:37 AM »

not to argue with martin but i use those 2mm stainless piano wire rods and ive never had a problem but saying that martin has more experience than i do.
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2011, 07:57:11 PM »

I tend to agree with Martin, stronger servo links would be good, also the screws inside your battery box should be covered to stop the possibility of them wearing a hole in the battery, just a precaution against Murphy's law. Mick B. 
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Re: Beginners Build of the Yorkshireman Tug
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2011, 09:02:39 PM »

Thanks for the tips guys   :-))

The battery box screws are an easy fix - I can just recess them into the sides a little so they won't rub (hadn't thought of that!)
Don't know what else to use for the stronger rudder linkages - any suggestions most welcome...
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