Thanks guys, I am a long way away in Canada & things do happen to us as we get older. I knew he had been attacked by another member, in my view unfairly. After being on the forum for some months you learn whose advice to take notice of , both you Colin,Ned & Peter are on my short list, LOL. You too Martin, sorry about that ,last but not least. Neil has helped me several times already so that was why I had missed him. Mick B.