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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #700 on: May 28, 2012, 09:13:35 pm »

old cobbler's thread

Oh yes, I think we'll all remember that it's Neil's old cobbler's thread. O0

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #701 on: May 28, 2012, 09:26:28 pm »

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #702 on: May 29, 2012, 11:23:54 am »

The engine room w/t bulkhead for the RNLB Mary Stanford is now almost complete.........just have to put the engine room fire extinguisher onto the top of the bulkhead centre between the engine water cooling header tanks (painted copper)...but that is drying at the mo.....and got fed up watching it dry.

The gratings have been fixed to the removable floor and set in place.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #703 on: May 29, 2012, 11:25:51 am »

Looking very smart Neil.

Very interesting following the build

Dan  :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #704 on: May 29, 2012, 12:22:24 pm »

cheers dan.
glad you're liking it.
neil.

However................., spot the "deliberate" ( I think not..what a cockup, lol) mistake. I just have after looking at the photos!!!
The Mary Stanford has her steering wheel fixed to a steering rod feeding back to the rudder box on the stern, and not on the ship's binacle column.............think the grey cells are getting tired.

the wheel has been removed for fitting at a later date to the steering rod.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #705 on: May 29, 2012, 01:24:26 pm »

  I hope all watchers are noting just how much excellent detailing is being added by Neil, it certainly does open ones eyes into "What goes into a model kit" and realise when buying a kit,just what you are paying for. I cant wait to see these three models in their finished state.
          Thanks for sharing it all with us Neil, you certainly deserve a reward for doing this,
 come on guys how about contributing to a shovel to help him clear his workshop after the build??????
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #706 on: May 29, 2012, 01:32:26 pm »

you cheeky sod!!! {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #707 on: May 29, 2012, 05:14:43 pm »

   you certainly deserve a reward for doing this,
 come on guys how about contributing to a shovel to help him clear his workshop after the build??????
Mick F

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #708 on: May 29, 2012, 05:15:27 pm »

What a great topic and build threads you've shared with us Neil. It has, quite sincerely,  been a most enjoyable journey and am well impressed with the variety and application of all the skills you have. O0 Hope to see them 'in the flesh' one day in the near future - the boats that is!

          Kind regards, Tony. :-))

                        P.S.  If "Rotty" provides the shovel I'll let you know if I locate a dustcart driver that is allowed to use his wagon for personal purposes - may help with the removal!  ;) ;) ;)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #709 on: May 29, 2012, 05:17:48 pm »

No Shovel I'm afraid, but I could let him use my giant wooden spoon ( but can only be used anti clockwise)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #710 on: May 29, 2012, 05:58:33 pm »

Any JCB driver's on hear that could spare a few hours   {-) {-) or even a Bob Cat, but that may be needed for a few days though:} :}  did you know his ceiling was at one time 15ft high, now he has to duck in places O0 O0

BUT he produces realy nice boats and that is all that matters , I am thinking of messing my shop up to see if it will improve my building {:-{

Keep ip the nice work Neil

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #711 on: May 29, 2012, 06:23:38 pm »

I am thinking of messing my shop up to see if it will improve my building {:-{

Keep ip the nice work Neil

Peter
yours don't need improving Peter....they are superb already.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #712 on: May 29, 2012, 06:31:53 pm »

just a few more pics of bits added. the first is of the two removable plates to gain access to the propellors down the tubes into the tunnels.even though they can hardly be seen under the gratings I know they are there. the other is of the base to the rudder steering box on the Mary Stanford.
finally two shots of the gratings in place on the H F Bailey.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #713 on: May 30, 2012, 03:46:15 pm »

You can make use of anything in modelling...even Kellogs Cornflake boxes.
after much discussion with Glyn, the ex crew member of Smuts, it was decided that the engine controls for the smuts were fixed to false walls made up onto the wooden battoning on the inside of the for'd cockpit......so this false wall was added this afternoon.from kelloggs box card, sanded on the shiny side to give a key to the glue, and sealed with sanding sealer on the outside.

These will be painted black and then the instruments added.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #714 on: May 30, 2012, 10:31:15 pm »

the false walls have now been made and can then be glued onto the areas where the card facing had been added this afternoon.....The false walls were themselves made from 2mm plasticard, and will, when glued to the  cockpit, slide over the combing that the cockpit itself fits to.
they now just need sanding and then gluing before being painted satin black.

Note that on the last picture the wheel is off set to the port side......this was yet another foible of the "Smuts", and yet another is that the w/t door on the bulkhead will be off set to the starboard side.....all for management of the crew in the shortness of space in the fore cockpit.........this One boat has taught me an awful lot about just one variation of a class of boats within the fleet, and to be honest, is testing my powers of research, with the help of Glyn the ex crewman, more than any other boat I have ever buit.
It is turning from just another boat, to use up an old hull and spares.........an "ugly duckling" for want of another word........to a beautiful swan........I am liking this boat more than the other two together., but all have a very big spot in my heart..sentimental.....well I suppose, but they have taken a lot of my life up over the past few years....they deserve that place, lol
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #715 on: May 30, 2012, 11:12:20 pm »

There can't have been much room for the cox's knuckles, that wheel comes awful close to the top of the canopy.  :o Where was the compass binnacle on this boat, may I ask?
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #716 on: May 30, 2012, 11:50:50 pm »

Centre top of the cockpit......there is a certain amount of room between the wheel and the cockpit surrounds but it was cramped compared with the other watsons........however the cox did stand on the grating above the wheel and looked over the compass, rather than standing inside the cockpit on the cockpit floor..strange arrangememnt.........but both the coxs'n at Beaumaris, and the cox at Cromer including Henry Blogg both said that it was the finest handling class of boat that they had ever served on.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #717 on: May 31, 2012, 10:07:11 am »

THE HUMEROUS SIDE OF MODELLING  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Yesterday I was preparing the anchor brackets for the 3 lifeboats, and had drilled the upstanding bracket and base for two of them when complacency took over and I began to drill the third...........

there's nothing worse than white metal for dulling a twist bit and I had left the bit unsharpened for the third and final set of holes...........BIG MISTAKE!!! {-) {-) {-) {-)

I got half way through the first hole, and the drill was labouring a little......when heat transfer took over and my finger and thumb began to smoke.........b***** h*** I thought, and nature took over.....brain was in self survival or so I thought, and I let go of the fitting before switching the drill off which was humming away at a fair rate of knotts.................

The bit snapped and in a blurr of speed the fitting flew off at nuclear speed punching a hole in the telly at the dials and knobs and all I can get now is b**** channel 24.
I rang Mr Metcalf this morning for a replacement fitting (as all that I could find from the disaster was the top pulley from the upstand) and all he could do is laugh himself silly at my antics %% %% %% %% %%

Picture below of what they should look like and what was left after my attempt to launch it into space! %% %% %%
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #718 on: May 31, 2012, 11:35:26 am »

when I do that as In cannot feel it, it smells of Pork {-) {-) {-)

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #719 on: May 31, 2012, 12:30:10 pm »

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I'm glad I'm not the only one then, lol %% %%

so onto safer materials,
after making the false walls for the engine control instruments, I painted them satin black and added the instruments as per plans.
Just have to wait now for the sectional plans for the cockpits from Cromer museum to detail the bulkheads with any detailing that they need.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #720 on: May 31, 2012, 12:44:24 pm »

 Keep taking the pills Neil! You need to slow down the builds, as those men in w2hite coats are queing up outside yor door! You sling your hook not your anchor!!! LOL
Mick (guess where I am at the Mo!!!)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #721 on: May 31, 2012, 01:01:06 pm »

enjoying sunny Clevedon by any chance.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #722 on: May 31, 2012, 01:08:48 pm »

how did you guess? not sunny though very dull and overcast but who cares...not me!!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #723 on: May 31, 2012, 06:36:52 pm »

I paid a visit to his masters boatyard today, [ i put my hard hat on in case of low flying anchors] and i was very impressed with the cockpit details, they are coming together to make three superb models......rod :-) :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #724 on: May 31, 2012, 08:54:53 pm »

yeh, but you didn't help me look for the missing bits did you? {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
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