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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #825 on: June 25, 2012, 01:19:21 pm »

Hi Neil , Watching Dave for some time now I firmly believe that if He can't find it ,it probably does not exist, he is one very helpful Mayhemer   


Agree  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #826 on: June 25, 2012, 03:02:41 pm »

That's a different Mary Stanford, Dave.

Rye Harbour lifeboat 'Mary Stanford' (O.N. 661) capsized with the loss of the whole crew in 1928, Neil' is the Ballycotton boat O.N. 733 from 1930 (although it was probably named after the first one).

The kapok liifejackets changed over the years - your links 2 & 3 are the correct ones I think - the one on the memorial is much earlier.


I think a salt water activated light (or possibly a whistle) hung on the round patch on the front - there's a rubber nipple bonded to the jacket to hook it on to.


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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #827 on: June 25, 2012, 03:17:57 pm »

Lance.........would the life belts carried on the tops of the cabins be the same colour as the life jackets, as these were Kapoc filled and covered as well...........I was told by my Guru, Glyn who served on the boat, that they were an orange sort of colour........

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #828 on: June 25, 2012, 03:36:55 pm »

As far as I know, they'd all be the same - They wouldn't have carried many spares, maybe one or two, any others would be the crew ones who hadn't bothered to put them on...


When was he on the boat? he wasn't using this sort was he - in the sixties?



They're not kapok though, closed cell foam as far as I know.


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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #829 on: June 25, 2012, 03:59:58 pm »

That's a different Mary Stanford, Dave.
{-)Thanks Lance - boy can I get things wrong - it never occured to me there could be two O0 Love it.

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #830 on: June 25, 2012, 04:37:49 pm »

  I have just realised that over 20,000 Mayhemmers have looked at this thread! Surely it must be some kind of record? The man deserves a medal.What will Maria do when you are all finished Neil,and you will be spending more time in the house? Ironing,washing up, putting plugs back into their sockets on dishwashers,I bet your life will change forever!
 Seriously my friend,I am proud to have made your acquaintance,and appreciate all you do to make our hobby such an interesting subject.
Thanks.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #831 on: June 25, 2012, 05:52:39 pm »

I have been giving it some thought & I am thinking that this build should be considered for our Master Class building section. I wonder what others think & if Martin would be so kind as to inform us if it qualifies for Master Class status or what else it would require to qualify, thank you Martin in advance. Mick B.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #832 on: June 25, 2012, 05:59:51 pm »

You are so right Mick
but like Neil's shop, this thread needs mucho cleaning up {-)

Parred down to the builds  (and with me surgicaly removed) it would be a great resource for everyone

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #833 on: June 25, 2012, 06:41:45 pm »

As far as I know, they'd all be the same - They wouldn't have carried many spares, maybe one or two, any others would be the crew ones who hadn't bothered to put them on...


When was he on the boat? he wasn't using this sort was he - in the sixties?



They're not kapok though, closed cell foam as far as I know.


Lance

lance...........I think we are talking at cross purposes here..........I meen the life rings........the things on top of the cabin that are round and usually coloured red and white quarters...........with rope attached to them for throwing into the water to casualties to grab hold of..........up't north we call 'em life belts.

sorry for the confusion.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #834 on: June 25, 2012, 07:30:12 pm »

...up't north we call 'em life belts.

I don't think you should apologise Neil. I think they call them lifebelts everywhere.....and if they don't, then they're wrong!  <*<
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #835 on: June 25, 2012, 07:49:51 pm »

Ah - gotcha!

We've got a couple, and they are a sort of orangish canvas, more so than the kapok lifejackets above, but not really bright orange - they're not that old though I think.

I can't find any photos though (I'll keep hunting).


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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #836 on: June 25, 2012, 08:05:35 pm »

Thanks Lance......those are the ones I think........they were mentioned by Glyn who served on her( Smuts) as did his dad who was coxs'n on her......and he mentioned that they were an orange colour.......dating from the late 50's - 60's.............just a change from the ordinary red and white ones or the later poly orange ones.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #837 on: June 26, 2012, 08:43:55 am »

Do you mean this?



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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #838 on: June 26, 2012, 08:47:36 am »

That's the sort of thing (it's actually a breeches buoy, but still...)


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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #839 on: June 26, 2012, 11:28:43 am »

BRILLIANT, Andrew.,

many thanks...............i'd have painted them red and white, but was told by my guru that they were an orange "sort of colour"from what he remembered from his crewing days on the Smuts.
cheers, and thanks to all who searched.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #840 on: June 28, 2012, 09:01:16 pm »

well, bar the shouting, the three lifeboats came to completion late this afternoon.........have just the lifebelts/breeches bouys to rig with their crutch support and ropes and paint tomorrow and add to the cabins and the three boats will be ready for motors and r/c installing and go play with them ( but that'll be after my holidays later in July...as I can't afford to buy 4 speed controllers befor the hols...................I will take them out of the shed tomorrow for some proper pics in the garden, but took these three pics, one of each boat this evening showing the stanchions/chains rigged and the masts too.............I am quite chuffed with them...............

In order of posting they are the Beaumaris lifeboat RNLB Field Marshal and Mr Smuts,

Cromer Lifeboat RNLB H F Bailey,

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Ballycotton lifeboat RNLB Mary Stanford  (GM..the only lifeboat ever to be awarded a Gold medal for herself)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #841 on: June 28, 2012, 09:04:45 pm »


I'd be chuffed as well if mine looked half as good as those.   :-))

Well done to you. I suppose you are ready to go into business selling the kits now.   :}

All the best

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #842 on: June 28, 2012, 09:11:23 pm »

Quite sad that these builds have come to an end.

Absolutely fascinating and thanks for the great details of the builds.

Whats next on the bench?

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #843 on: June 28, 2012, 09:17:25 pm »

Thanks Kenny.........as for kits.......these were purely an excercise in showing what goes into developing one from start to finish............I had my fill of kit manufacturing in the mid 1990's and far too much stress for me.................I'll pass on all the stuff to Dave and he can do with it what he wants now..........but it has taken him nearly 6 years to develope the Liverpool class lifeboat that I did those years back...........so I wouldn't hold my breath, lol.

Dan............next thing on the bench.................to clean it all up, lol.........

I fancy producing moulds for the Thames Class lifeboat, and may be having a bash at one of those................once I've built a Liverpool class kit.......bit o' kit bashing.nice and easy, lol.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #844 on: June 28, 2012, 09:57:59 pm »

What can I add to what others have said,except a big thank you for giving me ideas,and for producing such a detailed account,and then finally,to see the finished superb models.
Have a good holiday my friend,and if you are down this way,you know you and yours are more than welcome.
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« Reply #845 on: June 28, 2012, 10:25:21 pm »

thanks Mick....................and thanks for the offer............going Scotland way.........perhaps may have a sail on a Clyde Lifeboat if Iain is around.........can live with dreams............hopefully.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #846 on: June 28, 2012, 10:33:25 pm »

Fantastic insight of what goes in to a kit ,it would be a shame if they did not go in to production thanks again Neil have a nice holiday you deserve it after that build

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #847 on: June 28, 2012, 11:11:28 pm »

cheers Peter.....................I enjoyed building them,......kept the brain working, lol..................I'll veg out now and enjoy sailing them.

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #848 on: June 29, 2012, 01:32:52 am »


It is amazing what transformation a coat of paint and some bits and pieces, (fittings) can achieve. O0 O0 O0

Not knowing anything about 'Lifeboats' it is certainly educational to see the transformation as the build evolved.  :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #849 on: June 29, 2012, 08:19:46 am »

All Gold Medal Stuff Neil - 3 at a time too :-))
Also this thread has been just a joy to follow anyway.
How about doing a fun Springer Lifeboat sometime?

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