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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2007, 08:23:05 AM »

WOW
That looks fantastic
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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2007, 03:18:25 PM »

Well, hi ya my friend Captain Anon

I started plating the hull from the stern with the centre keel plates - all the way up to the bow.   I kept this central with a centre line marked on the hull, transferring the centre line from the hull to the centre of the plating which gave me a reference point for my next set of plates i.e. the Garboard plates

I then worked one set of plates per either side of the keel keeping the alternative vertical butts in line

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2007, 10:14:08 PM »

That sounds fine, keep up the good work, C A
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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2007, 06:56:09 PM »

hi all, very slow build this one  :D

Just finished making the 'A'frames - Ive put this pic on as it might be of some interest to some people.  The jig I made up to hold the A frames while I solder them.  Very simple jig to make as you can see from the pic.   

The second picture shows just the fitting of the running gear, with temporary props on and I am in the process of making the rudder.   One problem I did encounter was, with me plating the hull in paper, when I have come to cut through the hull to fit the prop shafts and A frames, the plating tended to tear.   I ended up having to cut back through with a very sharp scalpel to create a very clean cut and filling the raggy edges of the plating with a P38 chip and dent repair kit - this is a very fine filler.

Will post more pics soon, when we get a bit further on with the build there are just another 108 port lights to put on the side of the hull now.

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2007, 09:39:45 PM »

hi all, at this stage I am putting the running gear in - rudders, motors and steering servo.   I have included a picture of the rudder set up with the servo because I was asked by a few forum members about the way I prefer to set up rudder servo linkages.   I prefer the closed loop e.g. two push rods from either side of the servo drive - which I have attached a picture of.   I use 1.16 welding rods for the linkage rods.  At either end of the linkage rods I use the plastic connectors that the fly-boys use. 

Now moving on - see a pic of the motor with an amp meter.   What I prefer to do is run the motors in along with the prop shafts for about an hour to two hours continuously running off the battery with an amp meter in circuit.  I fill the prop shafts with a mixture of high-melt grease and the 3 in 1 light machine oil.  After about 2 hours running in of the motor and shafts, I remove the grease and replace it with a small amount of grease and oil.

There is a side pic showing the 130 port lights which I have just finished fitting - hey what a laborious job.   One thing that didnt work for me was a method I had read about where you fill a brass tube with clear epoxy and then cut it off at 1/4" intervals to form your portlights.  What I found was that there were two many air bubbles in the epoxy and also when you cut through the brass outer of the tubing it tended to snap off the epoxy in the remainder of the tubing.   Not a good idea.

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2007, 10:05:30 PM »

Nice one John.
Coming on a treat.

One thing though, have you thought about using masking tape ?? ;D

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2007, 10:08:06 PM »

What's wrong with that line. Blubird came from the Ray Charles school of painting ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2007, 11:39:50 PM »

Nothing wrong with that waterline, its a rough weather waterline ;D ;D

John, It is really looking good. I cant wait to see the deck and superstructure.

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« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2007, 06:57:18 PM »

hey there clever clouts.... have you ever tried painting a water line when you have had 3 large drams of amber nectar because after 3 large drams not only does the water line look straight but you often wonder did you dip your brush in the paint thinners or the whisky cos they both taste the same here  ;D

On the serious side though, I may have a bit of a problemo masking my mates, because this afternoon I had a bit of trial masking a spare bit of paper plating which I had sprayed and then over painted as a tester - and it pulled the paint off and ripped the paper  :o :o  :(

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2007, 07:28:19 PM »

John,
have you sealed the plating with PVA?

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2007, 07:38:24 PM »

hi there Bob, I gave the hull a coating of watered down pva and then my son sprayed it on my behalf with 'Plasticoat' spray and then, up to now, its had 4 coats of Humbrol number 64 and 4 coats of Humbrol brick red number 70.  The test piece I did this afternoon just had Plasticoat and a coat of number number 64 grey.

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2007, 11:00:39 PM »

John,
If in doubt paint the whole hull with varnish, matt or satin, if you use a polyurethane varnish it gives a good hard finish that wont easily yellow.
But saying that I use Ronseel mattcote and never had a problem.
One last thought, are you using Tamiya masking tape, it is low tack and pretty good to use.

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2007, 09:05:04 PM »

Hi all

just a quick update on my build of the Daring;

Ive now installed all the electrics for the drive system with 2 ACTion Condor speed controllers and a mixer by ACTion courtesy of FLJ  :)

All the electrics have been ran and tested so Ive sealed the decks down;

I'm building the superstructure out of birch 1/32 thick ply; now...Ive tried my hand at lithoplate just a small area admittedly.  Yes, its good to work with, however, I am not truly happy working with it.  I felt happier working with the plywood and felt I could manage just a good a finish on the ply with a quick coat of sanding sealer and then rubbing down.  Its like everything in life, its what you are used to and, at the end of the day, I felt happier working with the ply.

Couple of pics just to show you, the main bridge superstructure is in, the boiler casing vents with the gun platform on top and now I'm in the process of building the aft search light platform.

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for eagle eyes, you will notice I dropped a clanger with the deck boiler casing, its about an inch short, but a quick fix later will correct that.

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2007, 09:52:17 PM »

Looking good John.
I knew you could paint a straight line if you really tried.

Richard ;)

PS Stop pointing out your mistakes before I get a chance to. ;D
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« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2007, 08:53:33 AM »

nice work on her cant wait till shes on the water . :) keep the pics comming
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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2007, 03:05:56 PM »

Starting to come together nicely and she is looking really good, can't wait to see some more pics.

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« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2007, 07:35:33 PM »

Just a couple more pics as I am in the process of building the chimney pots /funnels.

I make these out of 1/64 birch ply bend round formers of the shape - then I cover them with thin card and a coat of sand n sealer.  See what you think.

Here's the laugh for you  ;D Tiger,Tiger will you please inform the Chinese that there are 16 x 1/16 to the inch - and not 20   and there are 32 x 1/32 to the inch and not 40   -  well what it is, I needed a new straight edge steel rule and I saw a bargain in the market for 1, made in China  ;D ;D when I was actually scaling up from the drawing (the drawing is in 1/16 to the foot) I couldnt understand why some of the dimensions were a mile off.   It wasnt until I was counting along the 1/16 on the steel rule, knowing there should be 8/16 to the half inch I didnt realise why there was 10.  ;D ;D

All that glitters isnt a) gold or b) correct.  The offending ruler is in the photograph  ::)

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Re: HMS DARING - DESTROYER 1930 - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2007, 09:10:47 PM »

Come on John.

You have a rule thats marked off in 1/10" down one side and multiples of same down the other.
Its what was known as in the good old days as an engineers rule.
What you obviously should have bought is a builders rule buddy.

G'day Richard ;)

PS Do scratch builders measure or just make it fit ? ;D
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« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2007, 09:38:28 PM »

Dicky

Divide one inch by 16 - and on an engineers rule you should have 16 segments

on this particular rule its stamped on 1/32, 1/64. and 1/16  - instead of having 16 segments, it has twenty  ;D

on the opposite side of the rule it has 1/10s, 1/50s and 1/20s which is correct

Ive used many engineering rules, verniers & micrometers and Ive never come across a ruler like this one.

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« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2007, 10:13:27 PM »

Must be an intelligent southern one John. ;D
Sorry I could only see the sections, could not make out the writing. ???

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« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2007, 09:19:54 AM »


PS Do scratch builders measure or just make it fit ? ;D

If you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer. I'm still trying to work out what use an assembler of kits would have for an accurate rule.
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« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2007, 09:36:06 AM »

 ;D ;D ???
I had one left over from when I was a fit and healthy joiner.

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« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2007, 08:45:07 PM »

hi all

ah, its great to get back to 'scratch building'  ;D as you can see Ive been making bits and pieces for the superstructure range finders and soforth - and the anchor capstains on the bow.  Got a few more bits and pieces to make (fitting wise) and then on to the fun part making the guns.

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« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2007, 09:38:45 AM »

She is comming on well John.

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« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2007, 02:50:27 PM »

Hi all

just to let certain people know I havent given up on the build - HMS Daring  :D

Couple of pictures show an update.  Im still busy doing parts of the superstructure, topedo tubes all made out of plastic tubing with copper wire and also pieces of wire insulation.

The white structure behind the funnel is the framework to hold the copper punt (for use as a battle practice target).   This is all made from plasticard strip.  Im being very 'daring' and adventurous - Im attempting to use plasticard where I would normally have made this from wood strips.

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