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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #350 on: July 14, 2014, 01:02:28 PM »

www.qicknews.de/index.php/costa-concordia-live-bergung   or  search if it doesnt come up {:-{
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #353 on: July 23, 2014, 06:28:14 PM »

As/when/if they pull this operation off then the Salvage Master will deserve the biggest medal and largest bonus ever given. An amazing and audacious piece of engineering.
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #354 on: July 23, 2014, 08:05:51 PM »

As/when/if they pull this operation off then the Salvage Master will deserve the biggest medal and largest bonus ever given. An amazing and audacious piece of engineering.
DM


its called there Bill. would not like to be the person paying for that one. I must say they have done a top job


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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #355 on: July 24, 2014, 08:27:55 AM »

I read somewhere that the cost so far is $1.2 billion  :o
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #356 on: July 24, 2014, 09:26:32 AM »

I see a Spanish tug involved in the tow is going to GENEVA !!
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #357 on: July 24, 2014, 10:24:51 AM »

I see a Spanish tug involved in the tow is going to GENEVA !!
And is it going there at 2 knots per hour? (quote from BBC News website yesterday). News Sub-Editors are like Chinese radios - they look good on the outside but their performance is often very glitchy.  8)
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #358 on: July 24, 2014, 10:39:52 AM »

Yeah. I saw that too on Marine Traffic. Genova, Geneva, Genoa ....
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #359 on: July 24, 2014, 12:12:03 PM »

"Italian civil protection service head Franco Gabrielli told the Reuters news agency that "victory" could only be declared when the ship was in sight of the port of Genoa."


Mr Gabrielli is going to look very silly if it sinks (again) 10 miles from Genoa.

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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #360 on: July 24, 2014, 02:32:31 PM »

"Italian civil protection service head Franco Gabrielli told the Reuters news agency that "victory" could only be declared when the ship was in sight of the port of Genoa."


Mr Gabrielli is going to look very silly if it sinks (again) 10 miles from Genoa.


Would make a great artificial reef.  :embarrassed:
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #361 on: July 24, 2014, 02:39:00 PM »

Yeah. I saw that too on Marine Traffic. Genova, Geneva, Genoa ....

Thats more common on MT than it sounds - a cruise ship that's in 'my fleet' had its last known destination in "Genova" a couple of days back...is it how the Italians spell it?
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #362 on: July 24, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »

Genova is Italian.
Genoa is English. I assume you can (but shouldn't) type anything you want.


Geneva is going to be a bit more challenging for a tug.  {-)
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #363 on: July 24, 2014, 06:29:44 PM »

Geneva is going to be a bit more challenging for a tug.  {-)

I'm sure if the let Mr. Schettino take command...  {-)
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #364 on: July 24, 2014, 06:48:51 PM »

I have emailed BBC newsroom to
inform them that a Knot is one nautical
mile per hour.
Giving a speed of 2 knots per hour  means
as speed of two nautical miles per hour per hour
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #365 on: July 24, 2014, 06:56:57 PM »

I have emailed BBC newsroom to
inform them that a Knot is one nautical
mile per hour.
Giving a speed of 2 knots per hour  means
as speed of two nautical miles per hour per hour
 :D

Ned
Great stuff, Ned, but I wonder how many of them there also have 'PIN numbers' and use the 'TSB Bank'? We all do it to some degree!
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #366 on: July 24, 2014, 07:05:21 PM »


as speed of two nautical miles per hour per hour

Ned

 it's accelerating then,  it will be going a fair pace by the time it gets to Genoa  :-))
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #367 on: July 24, 2014, 07:07:02 PM »

Hah hah, I was just going to write that Netleyned.  Should be there soon!
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #368 on: July 24, 2014, 10:56:54 PM »

Hi all, I noticed at the begining of the latest cruise ship TV  reality show that the narrator said that the ship was 132,000 tons of steel.  I gave up shortly afterwards.
Roy
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #369 on: July 25, 2014, 09:02:59 AM »

Hi all, I noticed at the begining of the latest cruise ship TV  reality show that the narrator said that the ship was 132,000 tons of steel.  I gave up shortly afterwards.
Roy
Is that that new one about Royal Princess?  :embarrassed: I did watch that (but can't remember that specific part) however if that was said they're wrong in another sense that its 141,000...
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #370 on: July 25, 2014, 10:01:09 AM »

Hi I think the media are confused by the Gross tonnage which is now used to describe new cruise ships.  True displacement i.e. weight of materials that makes up the ship is closer to 70,000 tons if that.
And many have aluminium s/s's anyway.  So saying 132,000 tons of steel is grossly inaccurate.

Gross tons is a messurement of useable volume, which is why most of them look so awful compared to the grace of the old 'liners'.  But the extra volume makes the ship more financially viable.
Few of the current cruise ships would want to cross the N. Atlantic during the winter.  The Queen Victoria was strengthened to do so but has a relatively low top speed and a somewhat bluff bow and, I read, was most uncomfortable in the crossing a year or so back.
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #371 on: July 25, 2014, 10:43:35 AM »

Guys....we model builders may suggest that GWT, DWT, Displacement Tonnes & other common terms of a vessels [mass=displacement] are out of date with modern understanding to the root of history  %)

 >>:-( >>:-( but we must remember :embarrassed: that a TUN was a measure of a specified sized oak barrel of wine shipped from Spain to England....& hence a wine Tax was imposed on a TUN volume and all of the deviations of a vessels measurement either follow these concepts or branch out into uncalculated waters  {-)

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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #372 on: July 25, 2014, 11:43:10 AM »

Barrel of wine shipped from Spain to England

I understands better now  >:-o
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #373 on: July 25, 2014, 12:17:31 PM »

Hi I think I would like my barrel to come from New Zealand.
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Re: Costa Concordia: Sinking and recovery?
« Reply #374 on: July 25, 2014, 12:35:17 PM »

Hi I think I would like my barrel to come from New Zealand.
Roy
Marlborough? Sauvignon Blanc? Never had a bad or even indifferent one from there.
Jean-Pierre
I think that at the time these measurements were originated we Brits stole more barrels of wine from Spain than we paid for! You guys were smarter - you didn't let the good stuff out of France! From what I've tasted in the UK it seems the Germans still continue with this practice....
Ref CC, must be halfway to Genoa by now.
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