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DavieTait

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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2012, 05:31:36 PM »

considering she is in a pirate danger area I would think the fishing boat would have insisted on the highest payout possible to begin a tow towards the salvage tugs , they will be paid a handsome reward for towing her for 48 hours before handing over , if Costa tried to refuse the fishing boat would be within its rights to refuse to drop the tow making it too dangerous for the crew to drop the cable due to tension on the wire

Who would have thought that this is exactly what is now happening , the fishing boat has ordered the tugs off and will complete the full tow herself , looks like another 12 to 14 hours longer tow time , seems that Costa must have tried to renege on the agreement for compensation to the fishing company and they will claim full LOF compensation probably by going through the courts now.

Things for Costa just can't get much worse can they !!!
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 06:04:51 PM »

Hello

The fishing boat came here as requested by authorities to be able to take the passagers aboard in case of emergency and also because there is an armed French Navy staff to protect the fishing boat against piracy and now to protect the cruise liner  -  Then, as there is no tug boat in this area, the closer ones are almost a week of sailing away it was a good opportunity for both to use the tuna fishing boat as tug - this one is more powerfull with more bollard pull than many of tugs in this area.  Of course it's certainely under LOF agreement, good money for the tuna fish !

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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 08:10:03 PM »

She will have 10 to 14,000hp Xtian and a bollard pull over 250t I would think , these Tuna Pursers are fast ( over 18 knots ) and large ships so very powerful for their size
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2012, 08:43:12 PM »

I don't think Trévigon is so powerfull, she's around 4000hp for propeller power (main power in this kind of ship is for fridge and hydraulic) that means around 60 tons of bollard pull, far enough to tow this kind of cruise ship.

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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 08:54:02 PM »

I thought most of these large ships had a lot more than 4000hp Xtian ah well wrong again lol if that had been a Scottish pelagic boat at that size then if you scale up what the local 76m boat have she'd have 15,000hp lol
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #30 on: February 29, 2012, 09:00:45 PM »

if it was a scottish pelagic it ( and the crew ) would also be fueled by ale  {-)

at least the somali pirates would jump onto the ship, find a bunch of angry scottish blokes  <*<
then promtly leave with there ak47s somewhere where the sun doesnt shine  :P
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #31 on: February 29, 2012, 09:16:01 PM »

Not fuelled by Ale , Whisky or Vodka maybe lol

Our big pelagic trawlers are powerful ships , 72-76m boats have between 6,500 and 10,000hp , the biggest fishing boat in the world ( built as the Irish boat Atlantic Dawn ) Annelies Ilena KW174


Is twin screw 7,200hp each for 14,400hp total , she's 144.6m/474ft5 long and 14,055 GRT so she would tow this cruise ship at 10 knots without breaking sweat lol
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #32 on: February 29, 2012, 09:18:07 PM »

I don't have data for the Trévignon but similar here : http://www.bateauxdepeche.net/pechindusthonier.htm with propeller power around 4000 hp  

A trawler need propeller power to tow the pelagic net, but the Trèvignon is a tuna purse seiner and don't need so much power for the propeller, they are speedy ships with nice hull form and most of the onboard power is for the fridge as hundred tons of tuna need to be frozen soon after each time seine is back with fish. hydraulic also need some power.

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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2012, 09:53:39 PM »

Some before and after photos M/S Annie Johnson/Costa Allegra
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Re: ANOTHER COASTA SHIP IN TROUBLE
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 05:36:17 PM »

Dave,
The IMO regulations state that ALL high pressure fuel lines have to be double skinned.
If the main pressure line fractures the escaping fuel is contained within the outer pipe.
I must admit my concern is more about the emergency systems on the vessels.
What has happened to disable the Emergency Generator?
Why have the Main Engines shut down they should be 24 volts with battery backup and chargers supplied from Emergency Generator.

Bob

HP fuel lines may be double-walled but it impossible to sheath the entire fuel system and then there are the lub oil lines which are also under pressure. The majority of Engine Room fires are still caused by fuel/lub oil system leaks impinging on hot surfaces, double-wall fuel pipes or no.

Unless there is somebody here who knows the systems of this ship then everything so far is speculation and theorising. Let's wait until some facts emerge.

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