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U505 Chicago
« on: March 29, 2012, 05:25:44 PM »

Went to Chicago this week and visited the U 505 with the Grand-kids who were not to happy in the inside during the demonstration tour. One wanted to know if there were any ghosts on board.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 05:43:56 PM »

Very nice!
I live  near Barrow-in-Furness in the UK...where we build our nuclear subs. Barrow has a "dock museum" which is just crying out for something like the sub you have there...even a mock up would be better than the nothing they have now.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »

That one wasn't built in Barrow, I know! Perhaps they should raise Holland 5 and preserve it there like Holland 1 at Gosport. Or maybe raise Resurgam, although that was built a bit further down the road at Birkenhead.

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 04:25:53 PM »

I too live near Barrow and the Dock Museum is suffering from the cuts like the rest of the country. When last I heard the museum was going to be closed during the winter to save money. Shame because it is quite a good little museum.

There have been several attempts to get a sub on display there but the funds have never been forthcoming.

I would like like to think that a sub would be a great draw for the public but I am a bit biased!

Thank goodness that the RNSM keeps going even though it is never exactly flush with visitors.

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 04:33:30 PM »

What happened to the U-boat that they had up there...U-534? Last I heard it had been cut into three sections for H&S reasons?
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 04:46:33 PM »

Or maybe raise Resurgam, although that was built a bit further down the road at Birkenhead.

Replica of Resurgam, close to the Woodside terminal of the Mersey Ferry in Birkenhead. 
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Midget_sub_135.jpg
"The wreck is currently protected against further corrosion by sacrificial anodes that had been attached to the hull. Plans to raise her have so far not been fruitful."  She was powered by a closed cycle steam engine.

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 05:10:01 PM »

When last I heard the museum was going to be closed during the winter to save money.

It's NEVER in my living here been open over the winter.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 05:45:15 PM »

"The wreck is currently protected against further corrosion by sacrificial anodes that had been attached to the hull. Plans to raise her have so far not been fruitful."

Indeed. Why leave it on the bottom to be scavenged by illegal divers? Resurgam was a vessel of modest dimensions, and lies at a shallow depth. I expect it boils down to hard cash. AFAIK, the only reason U534 got raised was because they thought it was stuffed with gold.

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 12:05:58 AM »

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U534 is at Birkenhead not Barrow, its on display near the ferry port in 3 sections with a small museum next to it with some of the salvaged stuff found inside.

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Re: U505 Chicago
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2012, 01:31:48 AM »

Well...Birkenhead-Barrow...both begin with the letter B, I got that bit right!

Thanks skip,


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Re: U505 Chicago
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 09:27:24 PM »

I'd love a sub like that in my garden but i don't think it'll fit on the roof of the car. 8)
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 10:31:27 PM »

I was lucky enough to visit the Chicago Museum a few years back and you have to hand it to them, they certainly know a thing or two about putting on a display and begger all about history.  The sub is displayed in a purpose built hall which leads you through the story of the Battle of the Atlantic.  In all the text panels describing events, equipment and conditions the words"Royal Navy" appears once!  "British Merchant Service" doesn't appear at all.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 05:04:20 PM »

Well...Birkenhead-Barrow...both begin with the letter B, I got that bit right!

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2012, 09:18:40 PM »

I'm happy to say that I am building a www.scaleshipyard.com U-505 in 1/48th scale.
I will be making a pilgrimage to the Chicago Museum for a more detailed build.
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Re: U505 Chicago
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2012, 09:28:11 PM »

What is happening with HMS Onyx, she was moved to Barrow when Peel Holdings killed off the Historic Warships Museum, I saw her alongside in Barrow last year looking very sorry for herself.  I thought she was to be opened to the public, but this appears not to have happened. :(( :((
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 08:02:10 AM »

Last I saw, she was still sitting in the dock at BAe. Certainly not accessible....even from the outside.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2013, 11:36:51 AM »

Replica of Resurgam, close to the Woodside terminal of the Mersey Ferry in Birkenhead. 
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Midget_sub_135.jpg
"The wreck is currently protected against further corrosion by sacrificial anodes that had been attached to the hull. Plans to raise her have so far not been fruitful."  She was powered by a closed cycle steam engine.

I seen the poor girl when she was hole . Me an my father was looking around .it a utter shame an disgrace they cut the boat up .
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2013, 11:39:28 AM »

I seen the poor girl when she was hole . Me an my father was looking around .it a utter shame an disgrace they cut the boat up .

If she is sitting at a dock at bae then . More then likely going to be refitted an sold off

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2013, 10:14:02 AM »

Just an update on HM (S) Onyx on this thread.
 
The guys at Furness MBC tell me that Onyx has already been moved to an East coast port to be scrapped.
 
Sad but very difficult for somewhere like Barrow in Furness to support this kind of visitor attraction.
 
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2013, 11:08:33 AM »

HMS Onyx is due to depart Barrow this afternoon.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2013, 06:52:12 AM »

If you want to see an Oberon class sub. you had better come Downunder.
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Australia's six Oberons have been preserved and are on display, either completely or partially. HMAS Ovens is located at the Western Australian Maritime Museum at Fremantle, while HMAS Onslow is located at the Australian National Maritime Museum in Darling Harbour, Sydney. The fin, outer hull, and stern section of HMAS Otway are preserved on land at Holbrook, New South Wales. HMAS Otama is located at Westernport Bay, Victoria, where she has been awaiting conversion into a museum vessel since 2000; a lack of funding and cooperation from local and state governments means that the volunteer group hoping to preserve Otama attempted to sell the submarine on eBay but to no avail. (They are still hoping to put her on display at Hastings, Westernport) HMAS Oxley's fin stands as a permanent memorial at HMAS Stirling, Garden Island, Western Australia. HMAS Orion's fin stands as a permanent memorial at Rockingham Naval Memorial Park in Western Australia.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2013, 07:34:30 AM »

 :embarrassed: ...even as Above Water Weapons foreman........I was seconded  <*< for one dive in an HMA Oberon Class submarine..........I did not like the experience  <:( ....Derek
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2013, 07:34:59 PM »

I thought you had to be a volunteer for submarine duties.

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2013, 08:37:18 PM »

Oh wow, I'd love to go to Chicago just to see her. The Germans called her the "the Hanger queen" she was almost sunk by an air attack and never seemed to have any luck after that date, always returning to France with Mechanical problems. On one occasion her skipper cracked during a depth charge attack and shot himself. She had been a successful boat up until then and sank a few ships including a liberty ship.
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