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jim c

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which paint to use
« on: April 04, 2012, 01:54:17 PM »

 {:-hi i am a newbie just coming to part where i need to paint hull on 50: perkasa it is a wooden hull i have glassed and sanded smooth what is the best paint to use and brush or spray?
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 05:10:17 PM »

i would say spreay paint  :-))
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 05:27:44 PM »

Although airbrushes would give the most controllable finish, I suggest that as you are new to model making that you use a Halfords acrylic 'rattle can'.  Several light even coats, giving each time to dry.  You need to be in a well ventilated area, and it is a good idea to wear a disposable mask.
Rub down any blemishes after the first couple of coats.  On completion I would recommend a couple of light coats of B&Q Plasticote interior semi-gloss spray can varnish.  Gives a nice protective finish and helps waterproof too.
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 05:41:55 PM »

You would be best to give it a coat of sanding sealer first, followed by a couple of coats of primer before applying you final colour paint.
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 10:27:19 PM »

I almost always use Halfords spray cans,not cheap but very good.They used to often offer 3 cans for the price of 2 which made it very reasonable but I haven't seen that offer for a long time.

The main reason I have responded to your post is to offer a little advice if I may.When I started out I used ordinary masking tape and often newspaper to mask up.Avoid this if you can.You get bleeding under the masking tape and the newsprint will more than likely transfer to your lovely new paint job <:(

Lessons I learned the hard way!

I always do my initial masking line with Tamiya masking tape which can be purchased from *bay from China( at an awful lot less than we pay over here) then use ordinary masking tape to attach either brown parcel wrapping paper which can be purchased in sheets or rolls from the Post Office or a stationers,but best of all is kitchen foil which is easy to mould where you want it.

Hope this saves you a little grief,good luck and enjoy.


Cheers Andy :-))
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 11:38:49 PM »

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/frog-tape-for-cleaner-edges-79158

I recall Neil reccommended Frog tape and said there was no bleed under at the edges (unlike previous masking tape attempts).

The site above sort of explains why.

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 11:06:59 AM »



many thanks for advice on how to paint ,i need to take a trip to my local b/q and halfords as i dont want to spoil t/ship for aputh/o/tar
will advice of outcome   jim c.
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »

Low tack masking tape works well for masking (the blue stuff), and a tip I got a long while ago to prevent bleed was to always spray a mist coat over the tape of the colour you were masking off before adding the new colour.

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 02:39:55 PM »

I have always found that spray cans of paint work best when the paint is at the warm end of any recommended temperature range.

This normally involves leaving them in the sun or putting them in WARM (not HOT) water for 10 minutes or so.

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 02:45:48 PM »

My advice would be to avoid Plasticote Spray like the proverbial plague. 
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2012, 09:30:51 AM »

Hi,
I was on the point of buying some Plasticote today until I read your post from way back?
Any particular reason that you might like to enlarge on please.
What do you use instead?
Thanks.
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2012, 10:03:14 AM »

Low tack masking tape works well for masking (the blue stuff), and a tip I got a long while ago to prevent bleed was to always spray a mist coat over the tape of the colour you were masking off before adding the new colour.

Dont use the cheap poundland stuff, its only good for masking window frames in your home and it's pretty hopeless at that too.

The higher quality paper masking tape is OK but does seem to have a rather short shelf life, after about 2 months there is noticbly more "bleed"
Best masking tapes I have found are:-
Tamiya, Graupner, and also the tape supplied by our local motor factors (brand called Würth)

I use the mist coat method as well sometimes
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2012, 02:22:59 PM »

I find it helps the life of the tape if you keep it in a draw, out of sunlight, which degrades the adhesive.

Halfords is pretty good paint for models. Their acrylic range coats well, you have a very wide range of colours to choose from and although more expensive than many car paint suppliers is still a lot cheaper than DIY stores or model shop paint.

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 08:08:12 PM »

Is the acrylic range you refer to the main Halfords range of car paints
for Ford Vauxhall Vw etc etc.?
I'm lookin at Ford Pine Green and Ford Ivory in this range for my colour scheme!
Masking up tomorrow.

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 07:10:52 AM »

That's the stuff.

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 09:53:25 AM »

My advice would be to avoid Plasticote Spray like the proverbial plague. 

I used Plasticote on some picture frames gave them a second coat it reacted with the first coat and wrinkled. 

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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 08:22:08 PM »

Is the Plasticote that got such a slagging the same as the Plasti-kote that I was thinking of using on a pond yacht?
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 10:31:49 PM »

Same load of POO POO AVOID it like the plauge.....many on here will say it works for me ...I have used it with no problems BUT  take a piece of advise from a proffesional painter DONT USE IT



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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 11:27:25 PM »

Unless you have a varnished wood hull, then interior semi gloss Plastikote gives a superbly effective protective finish for models such as warships that are in regular lake use.  Zero reaction to acrylics and / or enamel, does not discolour and still looks good after very high mileage use.  Many thin coats with plenty of drying time in between each.  No problem whatsoever IMO.   
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2012, 07:32:44 PM »

Hello,
I was given the hull which I used for my J Class yacht.
The hull was fibreglass, never been finished, it had a hard life before it was in my hands.
Many scratches and dents all along the sides of the hull, where it had been laid on floors etc.
I sanded all over the hull to get down to the Gelcoat, going through it in a lot of places.
There was different layers of paint in the bottoms of the dents and scratches - - not sure what type of paints !!.
I bought some" Spray Putty" from Halfords and sprayed the whole hull with it.
The Spray Putty is an alarming bright Orange!!, but is says on the tin it will cover easily.
Fab Stuff !!, rubs down dead easy, filled all the dents and scratches, I was well pleased!.
Hoping all would be well with the finish coats of paint, I sprayed the underside of the hull.
Perfect!, did a few more coats to get things looking better, left it to dry for a few days, then got to work with my "T Cut" to get rid of the errors - - there were a lot of them!!.
Spot on finish, not like a Piano, but very like a Boat!!.
John.  :-))   :-))   :-))
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM »

I can testify to Johns, finish on the Hull , I use it at shows to check my hair when no mirror is available.   %) :} :-))

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2012, 09:56:08 PM »

Is it called spray putty? Just looked on Halfords site but didn't see it.
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2012, 10:41:19 PM »

Hello,
The product is made by Simoniz - - bought at Halfords.
Had a look at the tin !!!!!!!!
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2012, 10:45:45 PM »

Halfords themselves do one and it is just as good  :-))
 
 
 
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Re: which paint to use
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2012, 12:16:09 AM »

Is it Their filler primer?
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