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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2012, 06:10:51 PM »









Up close you can see the tool marks on the hull sides, which I think adds to the charm of the model, real old ships look rough up close, so we have no intention of doing anything about the finish on this model. Warm light provided by our only source of heat other than tea <:(
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2012, 06:15:38 PM »







In these close ups you can see the amount of loose cordage needing to go somewhere, some of the Deadeyes ( 1" Diameter! ) are in need of re-threading, but remarkably, we do not appear to be missing any. Also, the Chainplates are actually helping to keep the mast up. Not just for show, they are brass plate with a copper nail through them.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2012, 06:20:36 PM »

Finally a view of 'The Black Pig' as she has become known, following her primer coat of black.





The beatifully rendered water 'effect' is for the chop. Two reasons, it looks pants, and Graham got black paint all over it anyway!
Thats week two done, here we were hoping for warmer weather....


Also note. it is always a quarter to six ( 5:45am or pm? ) cos the clock has no batteries in, MOD cutbacks :-)
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2012, 09:23:20 PM »

well done lads its going to look fantasic when its finishd  romanjohn
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2012, 11:05:30 PM »

hi alan will helen be doing the the superb resin work on the stern as on our h m s victory at the club  romanjohn
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2012, 09:24:38 AM »

hi alan will helen be doing the the superb resin work on the stern as on our h m s victory at the club  romanjohn
Yes, along with the two cherubs around the bow decoration.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2012, 10:27:35 AM »

Wonderful restoration work.  Fascinating.

Perhaps the reason the Dockyard decided to sub this work out is indicated by current Navy model making skills as depicted on this BBC news item today.
"Cardboard boats aid Nato war games off Scotland"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2012, 12:15:17 PM »


"Cardboard boats aid Nato war games off Scotland"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317
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Perhaps I can be persuaded to detail the build of our cardboard Mary Rose at some time, 10' long, used once and sunk, contents returned to the nearest bin afterwards ok2
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2012, 06:17:07 PM »

Week three begins..





Knees (?) in plywood, cut out as four at once, taped together by Colin. Painted by yours truly. How to paint them without getting fingerprints on them? Superglue them to a bit of timber, paint and snap off after.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2012, 06:22:39 PM »

This was the time for serious demolition and replacing of parts. details around hatches had been realised with plastic decoration edging, nice, but not suitable for Victory. Off it all came to be replaced with batten.





The varnished decks were showing years of neglect through dust build up, also a mystery wine red border had been painted around the entire deck edge. we decided to sand that away in preparation for new layers of satin varnish. Some of the lower deck gratings are being kept, some are being re-built. Some of the main deck details defy description and are being scrapped!
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2012, 06:27:42 PM »

The serious work of rigging replacement started at week three. We had salvaged almost all of the deadeyes from the model but chose to re-rig all the upper ones, as the cordage was literally crumbling in our hands. A fair amount of the vertical lines are braided steel, which made our work a bit easier, as these did not need replacement. However, some lines were missing and we had to purchase 15 metres from our local B&Q store.





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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2012, 06:33:26 PM »

The 'wedding cake' stern needed some addressing, following work with a chisel removing the majority of the plastic decoration, Helen got to work on a bit of visual fakery!







Taking a mold from the existing ballustrade posts, Helen molded off a number more. The stern was prepared with masking tape to get a level. The ( half ) ballustrades were then glued in position, matching the existing 'fan' profile of the decoration, while filling in the broad gaps
left by the removal of the original squirrly details.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2012, 06:35:14 PM »

Coming to the rescue at the bow also, Helen produced two Cherubs, shown here being test fitted to the figurehead area.



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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2012, 06:49:20 PM »

Week Four...







A bit of new decoration for the bow area, flag lockers at the stern, notice the blue cloth is gone. The model was sitting on the cloth with NO SCREWS holding it to the base board. Since remedied with three 4" wood screws. The view from under the model  is less than interesting...
The new bowsprit takes the model out to 14' in length, I hope they have a big display case for this beast :-)
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2012, 06:51:07 PM »

No sooner is the stern detailing complete, than the Chairman arrives with the black paint...





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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2012, 06:56:50 PM »







The first picture shows the first of the ships boats, from solid pine, sitting on the newly built gratings.
Photo two, illustrates the heights these people will go to deny me a pork pie!
Photo three, the quarter deck, looking like a half finished decorating job. notice the deck has been sanded back, awaiting varnish. Also note the newly built railings around the stairwell. Not forgetting the really nice diagonal planking on the rear bulwark, a remnant from the original build.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2012, 07:03:40 PM »



Signal flags, these are hanging like drying washing, all over the place. They seem to be painted canvas, good news as they can be curled and posed as if the wind is blowing them.


New main mast, still quarter to six...


Wood stain and coloured varnish applied to the bow sprit and boat deck gratings.


NOT our chosen method of fixing the spars, this is only temporary...


One of our first completed upper ratlines replacements, notice the steel bar threaded through the vertical lines as a spacer. This job takes ages, and we usually have one or two members on it at a time.
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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2012, 07:07:01 PM »

The original ratlines are correctly tied ( unlike ours!) and I took a couple of photos for reference.



The original stern lanterns were far too small for the job and were replaced with a combination of my woodwork and Helens clay work.


"high five!" for the Cherubs....


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Re: HMS Victory Restoration
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2012, 07:10:09 PM »







Rigging, by God, it goes on forever. No sooner than one mast is completed, the next one has had all it rotten old cordage removed and its on to that one <:(


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« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2012, 07:15:25 PM »

As you can see, lots of little jobs for the build team, Chairman Graham, Rigging John, Colin, Victor, Helen and me. Two visits a week on average, is getting it done. not everyone can make it all the time, but we are getting there. A bonus is that for the last ten minutes of a build session, the model gets cleaned up, and we can stand back and see how she looks...





And now she is starting to look good again :-))
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« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2012, 08:08:04 PM »

She is starting to look good, well done all!!

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« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2012, 09:52:37 PM »

i dont blame them for hiding all the pies , im sure you know the ditty about who ate all the pies , as you know they all end up on your waist band !  restoration is looking very good
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« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2012, 05:59:31 PM »

Week five we got the paint, B&Qs closest match using a chip chart and our Victory, painted in proper Victory paint....not a good match, still looks good mind.









Digging through the old pale yellow colour, I came across what looks like an original ochre colour, which is a better match to the original colour. despite that, on with our Sunset Yellow or whatever stupid name they have given it..
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« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2012, 06:05:17 PM »













While Helen is working on the blunt end I am working on the sharp end.
The last picture is a good example of what happens when you paint acrylic paint over enamel paint, while still soft. In fact, dont do it at all! So we waited till the next Wednesday and overcoated it again, all was fine.
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« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2012, 06:11:38 PM »















The aft deck has now had a coat of satin varnish, while the main deck is still looking sorry for itself. Main deck has, however been sanded in preparation for varnishing. There is still a fair amount of work to do here before we slap on the varnish,
The last two shots indicate what I am like with a pot of paint and a paintbrush, "What can I paint next? I know..." Probably a bit too yellow at the moment :embarrassed:
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