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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2012, 11:14:46 am »

FM is a big improvement on AM. I think Fleet used to supply 27mhz FM many moons ago. When those sets were current I was still a schoolboy, and they were limited to multi-channel sets which were way beyond my purse.

I believe the M-series sets had a very hot output, which explains their popularity with submariners. But these sets are over thirty years old now, and unless you get a set that has been little used they're likely to require refurbishment of at least some parts e.g. pots, swicthes etc. They won't work with modern receivers, so you're forced to look on the secondhand market and the servo standard was slightly different back then. They can be adjusted, but unless you're the type who likes to tinker inside electronics, I would leave them to the collectors and stick with modern sets, which have a few tricks up their sleeves the older sets lack e.g. signal conditioning, memories etc.
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2012, 12:29:05 pm »

computer peripherals like these have a max range of only about 10 feet not many lakes within 10 feet of houses

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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2012, 12:31:44 pm »

Now there's a blast from the past!.... Anyone still have one?

That's a big 10:4 there good buddy !
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2012, 01:20:28 pm »

FM is a big improvement on AM. I think Fleet used to supply 27mhz FM many moons ago. When those sets were current I was still a schoolboy, and they were limited to multi-channel sets which were way beyond my purse.

I believe the M-series sets had a very hot output, which explains their popularity with submariners. But these sets are over thirty years old now, and unless you get a set that has been little used they're likely to require refurbishment of at least some parts e.g. pots, swicthes etc. They won't work with modern receivers, so you're forced to look on the secondhand market and the servo standard was slightly different back then. They can be adjusted, but unless you're the type who likes to tinker inside electronics, I would leave them to the collectors and stick with modern sets, which have a few tricks up their sleeves the older sets lack e.g. signal conditioning, memories etc.

Oh, come along Andy...are you man or mouse? The M series was a PROPER radio, we didn't muck about with electronic gizmos back then...you set things up as you installed things. If the rudder servo turned right when you turned left on the stick, you had to physically move the servo, not just flick a namby pamby reversing switch. Signal conditioning...what's that for? Memories...you wrote what was what on a sticky label and stuck it to the back of the case!

And what do you think the M in M series stood for? Futaba designated the brown cased M series radios as 'Man's radios'...not 'toys for boys....'

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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2012, 02:12:19 pm »

Ever tried servo reversing an M-Series by switching the wires over on the pot. Ha! Not that easy, the thing went, to coin a phrase...potty. not forgetting that the case was 'live'. they also interfered with our PA Sytem, most impressive signal output, combine that with rampant black wire syndrome and I'm glad they are gone :-))
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2012, 03:18:37 pm »

Anyone seen this website?

http://www.mccrash-racing.co.uk/sc/sc24g.htm

They're converting old single channel and reed sets to 2.4ghz with Corona and FRsky kits. Emulating galloping ghosts etc.  

For years the dream was to have reliable, multi channel sets, now that we have them, people go to great lengths to reconstruct an inferior system using the latest microprocessor technology. Nowt so strange as folk!
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2012, 03:59:52 pm »

Servo reversing simples change servo red labeled one for a black labeled one and hey-presto direction is reversed , Futaba also did m series sevos in a waterproof variety
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2012, 06:09:14 pm »

I still have a couple of M Series Steerwheels which work fine. I always preferred the wheel to the stick as it seemed more natural to use, especially with the model coming towards you.

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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2012, 06:38:47 pm »

I'm quite the opposite, I find wheels counter intuitive in model use.
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2012, 07:27:37 pm »

hi there

After cleaning up me two 27 MHX transmitters, and trying them out, there wasnt much wrong with them.   I was expecting the dreaded black wire - but touch wood - no sign of it in there.  The only problem was one of the transmitters battery pack had started to corrode - so I replaced that, cleaned everything up and its all singing and dancing - so - think now we need an old vintage model to build - and I have been looking back at some 'older' model boat books for some inspiration and seeing the price of me Attack-Sport 2 channel and it was £70 + in 1074 make that 1974, although I feel that age at time  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:  what I want to know is....what wages were we on then - I seem to recall take home pay being £50 or so per week - so you all with the McGregor's and E.K Locitrol at £125 - you all must have had a well paid job  %% %%   I recall a shop in Sunderland called 'Chippys' he had a weekly pay club - and we got a few things that way in them days :-)

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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2012, 07:51:25 pm »

My first radio set was a 2-channel Acoms set, the very first ones that came through in the 1970's, and they were the cheapest sets onm the market IIRC, about forty quid with two servos and no batteries.

Now you can get a 6-channel set with servos and rechargables for that money, and we're talking more than thirty years down the the line.

Modelmaking is much cheaper than it used to be years ago.
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2012, 09:13:59 pm »

My first outfit was a single channel Macgregor, then I progressed onto the Macgregor 4 channel...a very nice radio in it's day. Onwards and upwards to Futaba...the M series in various stages (we had an extremely competent radio control engineer living in our road, plus of course, the mighty Graham Sheppard of Hunter Systems four doors up the road) What these fellas couldn't do to a radio outfit wasn't worth doing (but we won't go into that...)suffice it to say that mine and Bernie Wood's M series radios could switch things on and off, move servos in any direction we wished and at what speed, and had a tx output rivalling any CB radio....  ;D
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2012, 11:10:03 pm »

My first RC unit was an Acoms AP 227


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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2012, 11:16:05 pm »

Hi John,

To answer your question - I've been using my Futaba Attack II 2 channel Tx/Rx since 1997 - still using it for all 10 models with no problems whatsoever. Having a range of 27mhz crystals helps of course! .....and a good freq peg-board at the club  <*< :police:

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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2012, 10:21:44 am »

Hi all, after problems with my ED Mk IV set, the tuned reeds changed frequency at the pond side.  My first successful set was the 4 ch. well 4 switches, set from Derek Olley.  Worked very well and had a soldered in blue crystal.
Eventually changed to proportional systems and still use my Futaba Bionic set.
In between I built a Micron 6 ch. set, which worked very well.  Bought a Futaba M series 6 ch set 2nd hand.  The Futaba rx was dodgy and I still use Micron rx with it.
So I use what ever fits the bill.  Recent purchase was 2 cheap 27 mhtz 2 ch rx's from Howes.  Refitted into a 30 year old Basil Harley copy, Celia May, as I had just acquired a Bassett-lowke Marine electric motor, nice combination.
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2012, 12:35:13 pm »

i still have 6 models on 27 mhz.... no problem at all - so long as you have a full set of crystal including split colours...
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2012, 02:24:49 pm »

ARMC40, they could well be 35 Mhtz items.
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Re: 27 MHZ
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2012, 05:41:27 pm »

1st, seller doesn't say.  2nd, definitely 35MHz.


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