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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2012, 12:31:26 PM »

Keep to the board rules Mike
Excuse No2 should be posted on Humour  O0 {-)

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2012, 05:34:25 PM »

Hi Guy's

How good is it having 2 weeks leave from work ?

Am doing a little every day now, hence the regular posts.

Have marked and painted the Black topsides down to the waterline using my, (make do and mend), scientific waterline marker, no cheque book modelling here.  :-))

This leaves me with silver under the black for later scruffying up, (is that a word ?).

BYW, I did what the consensus recommended, re the sliding door pelmet, wet and dried,dried and wet, until the plastic was smoother than my new grandsons bum.

Sprayed again and no prizes for guessing, exactly the same results, wood grain !!

Will leave it as is now, but, plastic Styrene sheet and I are forever deadly enemies.

A couple of pictures.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2012, 09:26:43 PM »

its an unusual reaction your having with this peice of plastic. Are you spraying it or brushing it on. It might not be relevant to your situation but when i was painting my pt the paint went from flat to glossy, it turned out that i decided to change the paint brush half way threw the job and didnt think to clean it first. When you painted the parts that didnt go woody did you change something before you went paint the pelmet? like use a different glue or something?

Dont be put off plasticard its good stuff. :-))
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2012, 08:17:27 AM »

its an unusual reaction your having with this piece of plastic. Are you spraying it or brushing it on. It might not be relevant to your situation but when i was painting my pt the paint went from flat to glossy, it turned out that i decided to change the paint brush half way threw the job and didn't think to clean it first. When you painted the parts that didn't go woody did you change something before you went paint the pelmet? like use a different glue or something?

Dint be put off plastics its good stuff. :-))

Hi Mike.

Can't think of anything that I did differently to that part that could have caused it.

The paint was sprayed on via rattle can but only reacted with the one part.

Going to do some tests on scrap plastic to try and find the cause as I need to be sure it won't have to the other more important parts.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #104 on: August 10, 2012, 07:27:32 PM »

Almost completed the passender cabin fore and aft bulkheads today.

Just need to add the window frames and glazing.

The rear exit doors are complete but waiting for the varnish to dry.

The long access cover has warped so have had to drill for two small fixing screws just to pull it straight, (bu**er).

Some pictures.

Mike..

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2012, 11:57:00 AM »

Wave to the people, they're patiently waiting to get home.

They'll be waiting an awful long time for this Bus to take them. ok2

Mike.

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #106 on: August 12, 2012, 08:54:56 PM »

its really coming together now  :-))
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2012, 05:11:46 PM »

A very good day today.

Managed to complete all of the seats, must admit I was not looking fwd. to this job.

Anyway, turned out not too badly, by no means perfect, but good enough, as most of them, (the seats), will be hidden by the people sitting on them.

Had to make all new longer seat legs as the plastic people from China were 1/25th scale, so a couple of mm  taller than allowed for.

Can now crack on with the more interesting stuff, except that I have to replace the draft seals on all of my upvc windows tomorrow, b*gg*r.

Borrowed a ladder from my neighbour, but, I get Vertigo stood on a thin carpet so will see how it goes, if I post again then all will have gone according to plan. ;) ;)

A couple of pictures.

Mike.

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #108 on: August 18, 2012, 08:14:18 PM »

A little more work done, mainly on the wheelhouse, which is now complete.

Trial fitted the cabin frames and two roof longerons, all seems to be O.K.

I intend to make the whole superstructure removable in one piece so that access to the electrics / electronics will be easier to get at, (maybe) !!

Some pictures, day and night.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2012, 08:17:56 PM »

Fathomed how to make the passenger cabin with fore and aft door bulkheads removable so started to glue things up.

Will hold the structure in place by using several rare earth magnets. The wheelhouse is permanently fixed.

The seats are not glued in place yet, just a trial fit for the photo.

The 2 loudspeakers are for the Diesel engine sound module, only 6mm thick and will handle 4 watts RMS

Have tried them and they are not bad at all.

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2012, 11:26:47 PM »


The 2 loudspeakers are for the Diesel engine sound module, only 6mm thick and will handle 4 watts RMS

Where did you get them from Mike?

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2012, 11:37:48 PM »

that is really starting to look realy good  :-))
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #112 on: August 22, 2012, 03:05:52 PM »

Where did you get them from Mike?

Dave

Hi Dave.

The little speakers are from Rapid Electronics, I used the 4 ohm type in series to present 8 ohms to the amp in the sound module.

They are 3watts max power each but 2 watts cont. so two may give the same level as 1 @ 4watts.

They certainly sound loud enough to me and also very easy to fit.

At less than 2 quid each they have to be a bargain, what ?

Keep well.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2012, 05:56:23 PM »

Very pleased with my efforts today

Made the engine compartment vent, machined out of a solid block of Lime Wood

with the help of my little Proxxon drill, drill stand and compound table.

The cutter is a 0.9mm PCB milling cutter.

Photos of the real thing plus my attempts at copying it.

The open and close handle is made but the red paint is drying at the moment.

Have to admit that this tiny part is the most satisfying thing that I have made so far.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #114 on: August 26, 2012, 07:24:07 PM »

Probably not applicable to the scale of your model,
but if you work in a smaller scale (e.g. 1:100) a fellow modeler in a German forum suggested using computer IDE flat cable, cut in appropriately sized pieces, as imitation of vent grills.
 
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #115 on: August 26, 2012, 07:42:17 PM »

Probably not applicable to the scale of your model,
but if you work in a smaller scale (e.g. 1:100) a fellow modeler in a German forum suggested using computer IDE flat cable, cut in appropriately sized pieces, as imitation of vent grills.
 

Hello Deadwood.

This is supposed to be about 1/28th scale.

The vent looks right when placed in the boat.

Computer IED cable is almost round when stripped, my slatted louvers are, unfortunately, not.

Thanks for the info tho', maybe of help in any future builds.

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #116 on: August 26, 2012, 07:55:02 PM »

Computer IED cable is almost round when stripped, my slatted louvers are, unfortunately, not.
I'm very well aware of this. Actually, the round rather than prismatic shape also was my objection I first had when I read about this uncommon usage of IDE cable.
But when I saw photos of it applied to a 1:100 RoPax ferry model with their numerous vent housings around the funnel and upper deck houses I was quite convinced of the realistic effect.
Anyway, I think this suggestion was rather aimed at us low cost model boaters who simply cannot afford etching or CNC milling these parts.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #117 on: August 26, 2012, 08:06:51 PM »

I'm very well aware of this. Actually, the round rather than prismatic shape also was my objection I first had when I read about this uncommon usage of IDE cable.
But when I saw photos of it applied to a 1:100 RoPax ferry model with their numerous vent housings around the funnel and upper deck houses I was quite convinced of the realistic effect.
Anyway, I think this suggestion was rather aimed at us low cost model boaters who simply cannot afford etching or CNC milling these parts.


No CNC milling I can assure you.

Simple modelling tools used.

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #118 on: August 26, 2012, 08:14:49 PM »

Though I really admire and envy your skills, consider that your working scale is 1:28.
Now imagine hand "drilling" those grooves in 1:100.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2012, 08:23:20 PM »

Though I really admire and envy your skills, consider that your working scale is 1:28.
Now imagine hand "drilling" those grooves in 1:100.


I really admire anyone who has the skill to work at such tiny scales, well beyond my capabilities, ( and eyesight) !!

My foray into model boat building is really amateurish when compaired to some of the absolutely incredible creations on this site.

My efforts pale into insignificance, but I do enjoy it and I do get some positive comments, only from my wife tho'.  :-) :-)

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2012, 08:40:23 PM »

There will always be someone who can work 'smaller faster better' so you shouldn't fret it.
For my money Mike you are only in competition with yourself and with two good builds so far you're on a roll :-))
..... oh and I've learnt a bit too :-))

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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2012, 10:05:15 AM »

Me too
You certainly crack on with your builds.

Not sure if these are any use as you have done the light boards now but ill post the link anyway
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Programmable-Scrolling-LED-Name-Badge-Tag-Blue-Color-/290607206363?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a98a0fdb
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2012, 03:26:03 PM »

Me too
You certainly crack on with your builds.

Not sure if these are any use as you have done the light boards now but ill post the link anyway
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Programmable-Scrolling-LED-Name-Badge-Tag-Blue-Color-/290607206363?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a98a0fdb

Great link Gary.

It's a shame but I only have 43mm max length to work with.

Have bookmarked the ink tho', you never know what the future holds.  :-))

Mike.
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2012, 03:41:49 PM »

No probs... he has lots of "useful stuff you never knew you needed"
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Re: Venetian Vaporetto Build
« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2012, 10:51:08 PM »

you never know what the future holds.

Could I offer, for sir's delectation, a Star Ferry from Hong Kong harbour





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