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pegleg

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PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« on: June 27, 2012, 11:17:12 AM »

Does anyone know f the Sea Giant,or her sisters,Samson or Superman have been modelled by anyone. I would like to find enough info to possibly make one myself-the layout of the towing deck,with its deckhouses,winch etc are not easily deciphered from the few photos I have seen. I am looking for photos,plans of any of these 3 impressive looking tugs.,either as models or the real thing.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2012, 08:20:10 PM »

I have 3 very old pics.

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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2012, 11:01:54 PM »

Thanks for that,it adds to my knowledge base-particularly the bridge and rear face of funnel details.Cheers,hopefully there are more out there......any chance you could send me hi res scans of these?
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2012, 11:04:50 PM »

They are all I have and as they are on photobucket at the same resolution that I have.

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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 05:47:18 PM »

just googled sea giant images,quite a few photos including a model. slug
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 11:20:45 PM »

Thanks,but google brings up few,and I have seen or have all those,several as original prints.I think the model is in Malta,in a museum,but there is only 1 photo and it is of little use.Thanks anyway,it doesn't hurt to ask.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 12:05:54 PM »


Afraid my pic of seagiant is a bit blurred but here are some of her sister ships. I can just rememeber Seagiant at the Silver fleet review, it is where she rammed the jetty when racing a local tug in for a berth, she had a new bow fitted at Rosyth then sold off about 6 months after that. Contact the Plymoth RMAS Association, you may get more pics of the Samson from there, as for plans, Shipmate 60 might know more as he was at Bath HQ, when the RMAS was privatised, heard all the library of plans were then burnt.









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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 12:08:17 PM »

Thinking about it, probaly find the Confiance hull from models by design might probaly be okay to use, as they where the follow on upgrade to desiel from this class.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 09:25:09 PM »

Thank you so much for these Dodes,they are all new to me-the first is a beaut and the crew/bridge front is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to find,but for the other end! 
Sea Giant,Samson or Superman would do,though I think the previous Nimble class probably closer in hull/machinery than the later Confiances. Nimble class pics thin on the ground too,should anyone have them.....
 I'll try contacting the RMAS,don't hold out much hope of plans though,but asking on forums seems to be the way to go,as.like you said,so much has been destroyed in various office moves or closures.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 10:11:17 PM »

Digging through old internal RMAS info have come across this, hope it is of use to you:

P.A.S. SAMSON CLASS

PRINCIPAL DIMENSIONS
LENGHTH OA 180'-6 1/2"
LENGTH BP  165'-0"
LENGTH WL  165'-00"
BREADTH MOULDED 35'
BREADTH EXTREME  36'-10 1/2"
DEPTH MOULDED 18'-6"
RAKE OF KEEL     3'

NUMBER OF SHAFTS   2
PROPS 4 BLADE 10'-6" DIA
SPEED 15 KNOTS

DECK MACHINERY
CAPSTAN 1 X STEAM 5 TON
WINCHES STEAM DRIVEN, SELF RENDERING TOWING 1 IN NO
WINDLASS STEAM 1 IN NO SLACK CABLE 54 FT/MIN
DAVITS COLUMBUS "LUM" TYPE
MOTORBOAT DAVITS 3-3/4 TON PER SET

BOATS
20' MOTORBOAT
20 MAN LIFERAFTS 2 IN NO

Is that you on the Shipnostalgia Site?

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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 05:42:52 PM »

Thanks for the additional info. Yes,I have tried posting on shipnostalgia too,there seem to be quite a few ex RMAS,even ex PAS on there. Less so SD,but I assume because they are not that well liked (?) as a company-but that of course was long after the Sea Giant and their like were in service.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 08:02:57 AM »

Hope those pics are of some use, they are Capable, freebooter, nimble(in grey), and the Old Careful.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2012, 12:17:52 PM »

Very useful,thanks.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2012, 01:05:42 PM »

Found this pic of Expert on Ships nostalga, thought it might interest you, she is C D Malta colours.



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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2012, 02:28:45 PM »

Thanks, I'd seen that one,a nice picture. I had contacted one of the posters on there,and was told that several photos came form a book on Malta tugs-I ordered a copy from navybooks.com and am quite looking forward to seeing its contents.I think it is by a Michael Cassar,who has published several books on the RN at Malta.
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Re: PAS/RMAS Sea Giant
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 05:07:42 PM »

Could be a bit of a red-herring, but the last time I encountered this class of tug was in Capetown. Late 60s, early 70s. Perhaps they still have one. Ideal for the weather in that area. Try Googling Capetown Tugs. BY.
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