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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2007, 08:35:15 PM »

Glad to see that someone else is taking stick (Moderated). Instead of just slagging you off, why don't they try to help? Or is it just an ego thing. Keep trying and hope for constructive comments. (From one who knows). Cheers.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2007, 10:21:07 PM »

OK

Here are the facts, this Forum is the best organised, best info, best run, best layout and has the best members so I will say it again.

MAYHEM RULES

So Shoot me.

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2007, 10:36:50 PM »

Glad to see that someone else is taking stick from the pinheads. Instead of just slagging you off, why don't they try to help? Or is it just an ego thing. Keep trying and hope for constructive comments. (From one who knows). Cheers.

Scuse me ??

Have a happy retirement John.

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2007, 11:34:02 PM »

For those that are interested, www.modelboats.co.uk is now up and running - those some sections are only available to magazine subscribers.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2007, 04:11:51 AM »

...some sections are only available to magazine subscribers.

If this is an attempt to drive subscriptions it could backfire on you.

I am assuming most people subscribe for one of two reasons.
1/ They cannot get a regular copy from a local source
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2/ Convenience

The fact that I could not see bits of a website would not encourage me to subscribe. It would only annoy me.

If too much of the 'meat' is reserved, then the site content will be very weak.
If this happens people will not visit very often and you have lost the full potential benefit of your marketing tool.

Remember with any website it is about
                                  content - content - content'
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2007, 08:39:20 AM »

OK

Here are the facts, this Forum is the best organised, best info, best run, best layout and has the best members so I will say it again.

MAYHEM RULES

So Shoot me.

Regards David

And I will say again.
The reason this site is good is it has had time to develop and the admin has listen to the users. All I am trying to say is give the new MB site a chance. Post comments and ideas on the MB Feedback forum.

Despite the low number of posts I have made on this site I was among the first few to sign up to this site and I can recall the teething troubles Martin had. Oh my goodness I have just blaspheemed, oh well off to the brig I go........... ;D
So long and thanks for all the fish........................................... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2007, 09:50:59 AM »

I'm pleased to see that MB have got their website up again at last although I can't see an obvious link to the Plans Service marketed from Hobby Store which is what a lot of people will wish to visit. No other links either unlike the Mayhem site.

I don't doubt that the MB Forum will develop in its own way. After all it is bound to be plugged very prominently in the magazine. However I do have my doubts as to the usefulness of another "general" model boating forum as opposed to the specialist interest ones like Paddleducks. While Martin deserves all credit for setting up this forum and responding to user feedback, its real strength lies in the membership. I din't see any real benefit in that membership migrating en masse to the new MB site which is maintained by a commercial company and thus not entirely independent. With two general purpose forums, do you put your posts on both as duplicate entries or do you favour one over the other thus leading to a dilution of content on both and the need for modellers to visit two forums rather than one? Seems like it's similar to the duplication of shows in the same area around the country - not ultimately good for the hobby as the supply exceeds the demand.

Just a thought.

Colin

PS: I suppose you could say that Mayhem is evolving/has evolved into an on line model boat club. All human life is there - plus a few resident aliens. :o
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2007, 10:05:33 AM »

Hi there shipmates.  I have read your "Chit Chat" so went for a look at the new ModelBoats website. I liked what I found and have added it to my listed "ports of call" there is always something for one to find if you look around so I wouldn't knock any site. Mayhem was the first site I joined up with but it is not the only one, nor will it be the last one I join.  It's a long way off, ' if I'm spared'.
If we are talking about sources of info, depending on what one is interested in, the Model Shipwright publication is one I favour and have been subscribing for the past 136 issues. You guys are a bit spoilt having access to supplies for all your buildings, out here in the Antipodes often one has to make your own so "its any port in a storm" and all is grist to the mill.
SWMBO and I have a great time reading your patter so you guys keep it up I wouldn't miss it for quids.

Bob Ferguson,
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2007, 10:51:19 AM »

OK Dave if you have to go, you have to go :'(
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2007, 10:59:25 AM »

Strange as it may seem, I agree with your comments Colin, It was nice to read a thought provoking posting rather than the M.......Rools! type.

I do feel MB have missed the boat (ouch... sorry) by leaving it too long before reinstating a web presence and have paid the price. I certainly am not suggesting an en masse migration from this site, I totally agree with your point about a commercial site.
Like Bob, I do subscribe to other related sites and feel people should give MB a chance. I am sure even Martin would agree as good as the Mayhem site is it is not the only one worth reading otherwise we would not have the very useful weblink page would we?
I agree with you Bob, Model Shipwright is the number one Publication. I have well and truly shot me self in the foot now ;)

Anyhow, I must go and laydown all this agreement has taken it's toll ;D

Just seen your post bigfella.
I'm not going anywere unless the Mayhem mob lynch me. I was having a little fun, just my odd sense of humour. Sorry to disappoint anybody.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2007, 11:02:45 AM »

I dont know what your all on about, I navigate though

modelwarships
steel navy
model warshipsunderway
modelboats
model mayhem

with out any problems, its you lot that are missing out, its not disloyal to Martin, its called enjoying your modelboats. ;D
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2007, 11:05:09 AM »

The subs only content is not that great at present, I do wonder if it may be the first steps to an electronic version of the magazine. I have stated this on the MB site without a reply todate.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2007, 11:08:19 AM »

Exactly
Well said that man.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2007, 11:19:46 AM »

Dave

I am glad that you were joking about leaving because I have read some of your posts and they are always good. So I hope to see you in cyberspace.

Regards David
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2007, 11:20:05 AM »

As Navigator says, I think that the "subs only" content simply reflects the commercial approach being taken by Magicalia with the likely move to an on line version of Model Boats. That seems like a good thing to me as those people who live abroad would be able to access it as soon as it is published. You can hardly expect Magicalia to put current or recent content on line for free - they do have a business to run! If the Website and its forum revolve primarily around Model Boats content then the whole site will become another useful port of call rather than an undesirable competitor. I suspect that is what will happen anyway. On this site you can freely discuss the content of Marine Modelling International and Model Shipwright etc. (as well as criticise MB!) I suspect such discussions would be less welcome on the MB site!
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2007, 12:55:59 PM »

Wow a  fan!
thanks bigfella

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2007, 01:42:36 PM »

I used to use Steel Navy and still have email pen pals from it, but I got banned because I stepped in to a thread I wasn't participating in to try and calm down an argument by pointing out life is too short for that sort of childlike bickering and that because someone does something different doesn't make them wrong. Turned out one of the argumentative souls was the board owner.  ;D

By then I had found out what i needed to know about US warship references ie CV and DD etc. So it was no huge loss.

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2007, 03:12:51 PM »

We started back in 1999 with one modeltruck forum in germany, now we have 5 more! Many of my visitors are visiting the other sites as well, we are a big family. My forum www.modelltruck.net is still growing... so whats the problem being a member of more than one forum?

Don't forget that this site is managed privately, Martin jumped right into it after the "fall" of MB. Martin has no workers in the back, he did this whole alone! Hours of unpaid work. He didn't needed to do this! But hes mayhem, he truly loves modelboating!  :)
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2007, 06:34:28 PM »

I used to use Steel Navy and still have email pen pals from it, but I got banned because I stepped in to a thread I wasn't participating in to try and calm down an argument by pointing out life is too short for that sort of childlike bickering and that because someone does something different doesn't make them wrong. Turned out one of the argumentative souls was the board owner. 



Join the club, I got banned over 6 years ago for mentioning MODELWARSHIPS 3 times, they said I was porching members, I have been back there for over 2 years.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2007, 06:34:44 PM »


As Navigator says, I think that the "subs only" content simply reflects the commercial approach being taken by Magicalia with the likely move to an on line version of Model Boats. That seems like a good thing to me as those people who live abroad would be able to access it as soon as it is published. You can hardly expect Magicalia to put current or recent content on line for free - they do have a business to run! If the Website and its forum revolve primarily around Model Boats content then the whole site will become another useful port of call rather than an undesirable competitor. I suspect that is what will happen anyway. On this site you can freely discuss the content of Marine Modelling International and Model Shipwright etc. (as well as criticise MB!) I suspect such discussions would be less welcome on the MB site!


user "you mis typed what i sent you for the april issue of model boats online magazine..."
moderator "user you are barred!"

Is this the type of moderation that may occur? and more importantly do we want that kind of moderation.  here on Mayhem we probably have the balance about right, if it is subscriber only forum, (pay for use) i bet not many people will be lining to sign up



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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2007, 08:23:20 PM »

The forum is not a subsciber only site.
By subscriber they are referring to those who subscribe to the magazine and apply to various articles on the site. A bit daft as the content is only reprints of articles from the paper magazine at present.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2007, 11:47:27 PM »

Sorry to ask the obvious, but what problem have you guys got with subscribing? It doesn't cost any more than buying the mag at your local model shop or newsagent and you don't even have to get your sorry butt out of the chair except to pick it up from under the letter-flap.
It's just over three quid a copy, which isn't much more than a decent pint or a G&T. It's YOUR HOBBY!!! Are you scared that SWMBO will query such a large sum as a year's subs coming off your credit card? How do you get the price of kits or paint or fittings past her, then?
Is it some "class" thing i.e. "only the nobs subscribe to magazines; we working folk are expected to put on our clogs and trek thirty miles through driving snow to collect ours; that's assuming they haven't sold the only copy they get each month, because only the nobs would dare to ask the shopkeeper to reserve a copy". Yes - I have heard this sort of drivel and it's just that - stupid.
Life's too short. Pay the subs and spend your time in the workshop instead of WHS. You might even get a nice freebie when you sign up (See this month's MB).
Suit yourselves, but don't shoot yourselves in the foot.
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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2007, 12:17:51 AM »

I have posted my thoughts on the MB website.
I cant really see the point of a commercial run site with the economic pressures that generates.
No, I am not a luddite, but in my opinion MB let all of us down when the site was pulled.
I will pop on now and again, but this will stay my premier modelling site.
Commercial companies will only support what they consider commercially viable.
I feel part of this site because I support it by contributing and a small financial donation when this site needed it.

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Re: Big Thanks to John Cundell of Model Boats ( Oh, and some new Website! )
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2007, 08:46:09 AM »

No problem with subscribing here FLJ, I am one of those classy chaps, I pay quarterly via direct debit. Does that make me an even bigger nob?  :o
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Boy am I going to wish I have not said that :-[
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« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2007, 09:03:51 AM »

I subscribe to both magazines mainly becauce living where I do it would be a 10 mile roung trip to the news-agents to see if the mag was out; if it wasn't then 10 miles wasted, it also works out cheaper by paying for the year
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