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[davejay]

Hi all,

I'm getting ready to put the skins on my 1/9th scale 43ft RSL, I was going to do the scale double diagonal plank thing but have decided to do the skinning in four  seperate pieces (i.e 2 bottoms 2 sides!), I'm just wondering which is the best adhesive to use  and whether to start from the bow and work backwards or vice versa?

All input welcome

Many thanks

DAve J

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

For wood on wood, you cannot beat PVA glue.  It will need clamping and leaving overnight but it will confidently hold it's grip.


cheers

ken

[davejay]

Thanks for that Ken, I remember being told many moons ago that the slower the setting time the stronger the bond, I guess thats true with PVA, I've got EVo resin W, presume thats the best to use?

Cheers

Dave J

[Colin Bishop]

For wood to wood I reckon you can't beat Aliphatic.

Colin

[derekwarner]

I must agree with Colin here.....


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=polyurathane%20aliphatic%20glue&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CF4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPolyurethane&ei=HqnvT8SkJfGviQfXqPGuDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_rlLn4nCxgzI0hz7G2sR2UNlwQQ

Polyurathane aliphatic glue is 100%  water proof when cured & 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  times superior to PVA in damp conditions ......  

Derek

[Artistmike]

Another vote for Aliphatic here, After many years of using PVA I've now moved over to it completely, as for the sort of jobs we do it's a far superior product. Just another example of the way that glue technology has moved forward I suppose.

I've just done a boat using precisely the same building technique that you're about to and it worked a treat... waterproof, tough and nicely sandable and has a similar 'feel' to PVA when you're working with it, but I like the faster grip you get . 

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

I stand corrected.  I thought Aliphhatic was know as PVA.     because that's the stuff I use. 

Having read Derek's treatise recommended above, I am a little wiser, but not much.   

Anyway, I think you get the idea Dave J

regards

ken

[Colin Bishop]

PVA is now generally considered to be stuff like Evo Stik exterior wood glue which works OK but Aliphatic is a big improvement while the more expensive Super Phatic from Deluxe Materials is a sort of woodworking equivalent of superglue but still has water clean up.

Colin

[Stavros]

How about Gorrilla glue rather messy on the hands but what a strong bond


Dave

[davejay]

Thanks for all the feedback guys, much appreciated.
Looks like i'll be using aliphatic, just bought a big bottle of resin w prior to posting this post, should have asked first!!!........guess I can use the resin w for coating the insides of the skins etc!!

All the best shipmates

Dave J

[John W E]

Hi ya there Dave

ResinW or Evostik exterior/pva glue will do okay for bonding the hull skin to the bulkheads, just remember - seal the exterior skin with something like a good coating of paint.  Or, for a better job - finishing Zepoxy.   I have a few hulls I have built using ResinW, PVA glue which has been about for 30-40 year and they havent fallen apart yet - YET I SAY only time it does fall aprt (the model) is when it his the pond side with full belt - or dropped by Riggers or hoyed in by me isnt that right Dicky.

aye
john

[davejay]

Thanks for that John, I might as well use the evo resin w, as you say yours have been 'hoyed in' and dropped etc so i'm sure it can withstand any (if any) abuse I can give it!!!!!!

Was going to coat the exterior with sanding sealer until I get a super smooth finish then apply paint via an airbrush for hopefully a flawless finish, hope shes still about in 30-40 years time as yours are!!!!

All the best

Dave

[Martin (Admin)]

 Where can you get Polyurathane aliphatic glue in the UK in decent size bottles?

[Subculture]

Gorilla glue is aliphatic polyurethane glue.

Amazon supply plenty of brands, Martin.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=polyurethane+wood+glue&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=10382152251&hvpos=1t3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1769666878866790697&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_649ykdouqk_b

[Colin Bishop]

I think there is more than one type of Gorilla glue. The variety most people are dsescribing is the one which has a foaming gap filling action. This is quite different to normal Aliphatic glue which is simply a thin liquid. which penetrates the wood.

Colin

[Subculture]

There is Aliphatic PVA, which is usually yellow in colour, and snads nicely unlike normal PVA which tends to remain a bit chewy in my experience.

[essex2visuvesi]

 Where can you get Polyurathane aliphatic glue in the UK in decent size bottles?

http://www.shop4glue.com/