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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2012, 10:59:43 am »

very nice mate  :-))
as for your other project a google search of Russian destroyers might pinpoint it ( its what i did for the Sovremenny )  :-)
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2012, 11:11:48 am »

Glen, I found those in the box like someone had just thrown them in no decals or nothing just clear plastic in their Sprues.

However the other aircraft came with the Nimitz kit as part of the 1975 Airwing 8 group.

Just for interest I have ordered some or 12 to be exact Super Hornets and 3 other Sea Kings plus a Hawkeye plus others.

the Super Hornets are just if ever, to update her to current specs as far as aircraft go as they also use the Super Hornets as what are called growlers being an intelligence collector.

They still have the Hawkeyes etc but all the rest have gone to god.

I will be displaying her as the 1975 edition and I just have to get another Phantom Squadron which will be no problem.

The Super Hornets when I paint etc will just be an addition for display and will not be used in the aircraft carriers sea operations down on the Billabong.Here are some of the Squadrons that are or have been on Nimitz hope I get them correct.


I also received the 1/350 Aircraft Crew Present issue and Geez, I will definately need a magnifier to put those on the deck. Any ideas how to fix them they look like brass etching which has been painted and I will have to cut them out very carefully methinks????




















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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2012, 01:51:43 pm »

Apparently the product code for your rtr model is RTR HT3831.

Search that and you'll find the details. It's nice, supposedly close to 1/300th scale but probably based on someone else's model like the Sovremeny, but the prices I am seeing make it a bit expensive for me.
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2012, 02:10:11 pm »

Thanks Steve Yeah Ive done that mate but no real info on what it is supposed to be. I believe it to be Russian Destroyer or frigate and have been checking the Russian Navy Ships. Closest I have come is this.



I think this is a Russian Ship in a chinese harbour but not sure. I looked it up under Russian Destroyers however.

It's just that when this company makes a model or cheap model it always resembles a notable ship. Like the Sovremenny class that is an ebay cheapie and the Bismarck. Know what I mean. I thought it might relate to something modern floating around today.

I think it does but its just finding it.

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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2012, 07:20:41 am »

Well nothing much done to Nimitz since last post, added a few bits and pieces to the Hull as per destructions however, as I decided to build 2 escorts for her I decided to include them in with this build. I also got a pleasant surprise when I opened the kits to find them already motorised, something I did not know or expect and could save me a wee bit of work on the R/C side of things. We shall see after I start the build of these kits and I feel with the amount of sailing that these 3 ships will be doing, these small 3.oo voltage motors with the gearbox and the twin screws even came complete in metal with stuffing tubes etc and should do the job. Time will tell. However as display should look really well. Also arrived were a set of 6 x F14 Tomcats once again used on Nimitz just before she changed to the Hornets. I shall have a good variety of aircraft from when she started in 1975 with 8 Air Wing to the present day purely just for interest, history and display purposes. She will remain as 1975 when in the water as I have to fix the aircraft to her flight Deck permanently.
I also received the Eduardo 1/350 Aircraft carrier figures pre painted in Etch so that will be a job and a half. I will ask again, anyone got any ideas on how to fix these crewmen like what to use to fix them in place???.
That's all for now plodding on, more aircraft ordered some new some to add to the existing fleet onboard as the Kit does not give the correct issue of aircaft onboard in 1975, so we are building on that also.
I received a reply from Steve at Model boats god bless him with a quote on all I need but I am afraid I will have to start saving for the parts as they are not cheap, but then quality never is, is it? Thanks to Steve. I will have to email him and advise him to hold off for just a wee while. SHAME.








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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2012, 01:53:28 pm »

Good Day I suppose it is in the Uk plodding along, don't seem to be to many comments so I must be doing something correctly.
I was sitting building the F14 B/D Super Tomcats when I thought of an idea which will probably sound stupid to you, but never the less it's a workable idea I think and, as there are not many comments really with this build I will work on it further. Maybe a lot of you are tied up with their Lindberg Blue Devil conversion haha or maybe there is no real interest in Aircraft carriers.

Don't know why they are a lot more work than a lot of the Destroyer Models and the final build I think will be well and rewarding. I will plod on regardless as they say, I know one thing it will be an expensive model when finished.

I also ordered the last of the Aircraft today to
A.  Bring up the correct Aircraft total as she was in 1975 and
B. To keep her completely up todate with the present Aircraft on board and thanks Trumpeter, I even managed to get 2 x C2 Greyhounds which are used as land based Aircraft but able to land on the deck of a carrier. These aircraft are the next generation up from the Hawkeye and a few Hawkeye's have been converted to the Greyhound specs in the beginning of it's test flights.

As people on the forum have advised me, doing this to the Nimitz like R/C conversion, the model will be Top Heavy and either heaps of ballast or removable keel or whatever you can think of.

Well my idea is that as the Nimitz is going to be sailing with the 2 Destroyer Escorts, why not keep them as airtight dummies and use them as floats like an Outrigger system.

You perhaps could utilise something say about 2 feet long and removable and use the lot like an Outrigger system. It would be under or just in line with the waterline and would also look good too.

So the Escorts would be airtight and all done up as warships correctly but acting as scale floats, The Nimitz would still contain some amount of ballast which I would have to weight out but I believe it to be a workable idea.

Ok enough said about that, here are some more pictures of what has happened. Still waiting for Paint, as I have to order it via Ebay.

Pictures are the 2 destroyers with Nimitz to show what I mean re Outrigger system.

Then USS Ingersoll being slowly fitted out.

Also the F14 B/D Super Tomcats now waiting for their paint and decals fitout. I actually ordered at long last Decal fixer which will be great.















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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2012, 02:42:07 pm »

Just before I go to bed I have taken another photograph and the ruler shows a measurement in your language of 12 inches exactly.
With the Carbon Fibre rods they use in the Fast electric Outriggers this length seems to be just right and far enough from the Nimitz but not too far as not to give flotation support.







I have also included 2 photographs of my helper and Unquestionable admirer of my work. He is just so full of appreciation at what I do, especially when I reward him for his efforts at helping me build Nimitz, like eating an F4J Phantom in one great gulp. Hmmmm.
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2012, 04:34:41 pm »

Interesting use of out riggers....

I've completed my Enterprise just waiting for the stand "brass" nameplate to arrive and then get to the lake for "sea trials"  I can report on the "stability devices" and hopefully some photo's.

Regards

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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2012, 05:45:05 pm »

That's terrific Alan T I am looking forward to seeing and hearing how the Big E went on her trials. It is interesting use of the Outrigger system and should make for quite a sizeable formation when all together. I believe it will work if set up correctly and with patience. Probably the best to use would be Aluminium or Brass Model tubing which is quite easily bent into shape with correct tools. This would allow adjustments to be made on the Waterline Issue and also keep the costing a bit lower.
Anyhow good luck and hope you like Nimitz so far.
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2012, 11:58:59 am »

I thought tonight that I would fill the bath and just see what catasrophies would befold upon me and insert Nimitz and one of the Escorts U S S Ingersoll.

I found some balance for Ingersoll taped it on as temp site and plunged her into the water. No problems floats really well, made a few waves etc with my hands and still kept upright so that ship will remain with that ballast. Her sister ship will get the same deal.

The Nimitz I thought, well here goes and in she went. I was amazed, the only roll I achieved was when I put the top middle flight deck in place making her top heavy but only by a wee bit. She did not keel over but the top decking came down closer to the water. Strange I thought she is more stable than I realised, took me unawares how stable she was.

I have insitu as temp, 2 x  7.2 battery packs and she is straight as a Die, even when I splash around and manually bend her down towards the surface of the water, she returns straight up to topside again.

I am really pleased with this result.

So having done this I guess we dont need to worry about Outrigger system and just go back to my 3 ship flotilla.

FANTASTIC.







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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2012, 12:16:40 pm »

You will need all the top fittings first to really test stability...Mine was fine when I tested as per your carrier. It was only when the structures and planes were added I had an alarming list to starboard....and had to add additional lead to the Port side in order to correct...Hopefully you can just balance your carrier with internal weight, I , unfortunaly had to take more extreme action. Only Lake testing will tell the whole story...

Regards

Alan
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2012, 12:29:11 pm »

Thanks Alan,

I am taking your advice believe me.

The Nimitz has been in the tub now for approx 3 hours since I started. I have placed all aircraft on deck, I have and still no leaning etc. Still sitting nicely in the tub.

I have taken 2 pictures to try and show her water position I guess you could call it, Closest I could get.

One tiny leak near stern but that could be coming from my taping job, checked, and not real sure but I have gear to still go around the inner of the joins and that will fix it for sure.

Also Alan, there are more aircraft as per the original 1975 issue, so that should also add to the weight for checking>>>>









I will leave her tonight in the Tub with Ingersoll and see the happy or unhappy result in the morning.

Look out Dexter the dog if the sight is not too good haha
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2012, 03:30:59 pm »

Proceeding on with todays work, I did not realise just how much of a Jigsaw Puzzle these models are haha. Alan you would appreciate that comment.
I have been working all day on the control tower and it is still not yet finished. Very fiddly and all the little pieces Phew what work,  I am building the parts that will be ok in the Light Gray the Nimit'z main colour.
So when the paint does arrive all I have to do is paint what I have left on the Sprues and what work I have done. I also painted in correct colour scheme of Orange/Yellow all the working vehicles, I did have some of that paint.
I got onto the Internet and since nobody seems to know how to fix Etched parts or could not be bothered to answer my question which I did ask 2 times, I found a terrific information section on how to fix the parts correctly so this will be of great assistance when placing the Crew Members.
Ok pictures of work for tonight.






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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2012, 10:37:59 am »

Continuing on, today I did all the parts around the Nimitz. I am sorry that I am not Naval orientated as I did my service in the Australian Airforce and also the Army so I'm afraid Nautical terms and ship parts are way above me. I just follow the destructions to the best of my ability.
She is starting after many hours of work to look like an aircraft carrier me thinks but a lot lot more work to go yet. I just wish these paints would hurry up and come, that's the trouble living in the Outback.
Anyway I looked at the Aircraft carrier crew I had purchased and at the small etch sheet. I studied it and thought there is a lot of men on here haha it was then I realised you just cut out the whole figure and then bend it in half to get the 3D figure haha
You probably know that but as I said I have never worked with stuff like this before. Anyway only picture I have inserted to night is a little blue man next to a Phantom and i think once the crew is in place which will be a job in itself it will finish the Nimitz to a tea with all the different coloured vests etc.
I just have to look up to see what is what, like what do the Yellow vests do, what do the blue, Red, White but I will find out to put them in their positions onboard.



These are present day figures and I reckon a group around an aircraft and say uniformed personnel on the control tower will look aok.
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2012, 11:05:36 am »

Charles,

That reminds me, as you know Army bods are fond of drinking port, loyal toast etc.
Well to help Army bods with Nautical terms, they were taught there is always a little left in the port, hence port is left, starboard right  O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2012, 01:26:12 pm »

Hey Raaartygunner you hit the nail on the head there hahaha. I like that, and funny I am a wee bit partial to the LEFT Drink myself and have been known to have had many a water bottle on exercise one with Port on the left of course and for the cold bush nights one with Blackberry Nip haha
A life saver up in the Warrumbungles on a cold winters night doing Picket.
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2012, 01:52:53 am »

Good Morning Shipmates,
Well not much done still, Yes still waiting for the paints even ordered some more I think the chinese postal service might be on a go slow or could be another Holiday Festivall or something like that.
I have started to work on the Stuffing Tubes and Prop Shafts. I found 4 in the Shed along with a dual 380 motor set up  which I think will just do the trick. I still will need to order the A frames but I think the size is M2 as you say being from Chinese models. They have drive dogs and screwed ends so should be able to find some nice props for her I hope, at least 4 blade Right and Left.


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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2012, 11:54:46 am »

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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2012, 01:10:09 pm »

Re last posting I have decided to change the Propshaft and stuffing tube setup as I wanted to use what the Kit supplied.
I decided to go with Control Rods used on 450 size Helicopters between the Servo and Tail Rotors as the prop shafts and I had in my kitty some mini stuffing tubes from motorised kits.
These all came together perfectly and I was able to use the A Frames supplied. The control rod linkage just slid through perfectly into the holes in the A frames and at a good length gives me plenty to play with when deciding to place the 4 motors to be used when chosen with their engine mounts.
Props might be the issue though but I have 4 plastic props once again supplied with 1/350 motorised kits which might do the job.
They are both RH and LH and are 3 blade. Might be good for testing when set up.
Also the end of the control rods are threaded to take the servo mounts so a screw in prop will do the job.
The Rudders are the ones from the Lindberg Kit of the Fletcher Destroyer so they also fitted up to Nimitz really well and appear to be just the right size for her.







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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2012, 03:03:59 am »

 Hello

 I wanted to ask the builder, what do you think about using modified servos as your motors for the aircraft build? Each servo circuit board is a speed controller and they are light. Would it work ? Was thinking about that for my Tamiya Enterprise R.C conversion.

 Let me know what you think.

 Thanks

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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2012, 04:41:15 am »

Hello George,
Gee you have got me there old mate. I dont know much about servos at all. I have seen a few articles re servos for gun turretts on destroyers etc.
They have info re that on the Lindberg Fletcher by Glendavis.
Using them as motors I don't know. For Nimitz i was going to use the small square Graupner Motors I dont know the model but I know what I want and I was going to couple all of that up to a ESC which I feel could handle the job.
Once all the parts are in place plus the ballast the model turns out to be pretty heavy so re power of servo motors mate I once again dont know myself.
Alan T has just done the Enterprise and he has a forum if you havent already seen it George.
Sorry I cant be of more help in that regard. {:-{
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2012, 09:03:28 am »

Moving on to today's little bit on Nimitz.
I have completed the Island, the Mast and the Main Mast.
Only thing I have to do is insert 2 spreaders where I yes I inadvertantly cut the parts in half and they were so thin I will use some wire instead it will be an easy job haha.
Ok pictures of Nimitz so far less aircraft which are being redone with correct squadrons on order from trumpeter.
I am a bit relieved that this fiddly work is over on the Island etc. I have been cursing and swearing, but now looking at it I am pleased with the outcome.
It would'nt be modelling if a little bit of cursing was not included would it, that's part of the enjoyment.










Plodding on. :-))
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2012, 01:17:03 pm »

Okay progress for today.

Fitted Top Flight Deck with underside fittings.

Tried 5 blade props that came with kit onto new shafts and fitted perfectly. Don't know if they will work in the water or are just for display purposes only but I now know size to aim for.

Finished the S3 Viking aircraft including decal work (Even bought decal stuff to make sure they stay on look ok tonight so far not drying out).

Finished some Mobile cranes, Crash trucks and Tow tractors on one sprue only another 12 to go.

Put together a set of Tomcats up to the point  where they can be sprayed in their colours.

Started the Corsair remake was not happy with what I had done so far so started again.

Ran Out of Puff and patience due to eyes going wonky with fiddly bittys and me being tired haha.







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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2012, 12:33:35 pm »

Hello shipmates' sorry I cannot supply pictures but still plodding along.
All the vehicles are now completed and a lot of under deck work completed.
Will have to try and get these pictures. Sorted out Asap Sorry..
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Re: Trumpeter Kit US Nimitiz Scale 1/350
« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2012, 08:08:59 am »

Back in Action again re pictures, good stuff.

Okay Shipmates, as you know working on a few ships also, but here are 2 pictures of Nimitz as she looks now.

I have shown Prop and shaft setups previously, and still got to work on Motors etc which I will do soon.

Paint is the major issue for this build and my others, as my supplier seems to be on a go slow re my orders waiting for this Missouri battleship, I wish I had never ordered it but too late now.

So,  I have been putting together what I can while waiting. I am also working on her Escorts.







Plodding on as always.
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