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Neils computer
« on: July 16, 2012, 09:21:51 PM »

Beware .....Neil has asked me to warn everyone about google earth......within seconds of pressing search his computer crashed....the guy in the shop reckoned it picked up a virus and goosed the hard drive...Rod
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 09:25:37 PM »

Why did his Virus protection programme fail? To protect his Computer? It a sad thing that some scum have nothing better to do than try to virus computers. John.
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 11:06:57 PM »

Hard drives are perfectly capable of goosing themselves without outside interference, and virus writers rarely try for that effect anyway.  Theres no money in it, but it is an easy get-out story for the guy in the shop.  Much easier to sell a new computer than to run diagnostic programs and discern the broken bit.
Hopefully the drive didn't contain anything that wasn't backed up elsewhere.
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 02:53:55 AM »

What is a good piece of kit to back up onto please?

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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 05:26:50 AM »

Virus' that actually destroy the hard drive are very few and far between, as others have said there's no money in it.... much more lucrative to have a virus send your personal and banking details to some Estonain identity broker.

As for backups a simple usb hard drive will suffice if you just want to backup personal files (pics, documents, etc, etc)
Other options include online storage (Microsofts skydrive etc) but if you only have a low speed internet connection it can be very slow
If you want to do a full PC backup (Complete system files backup) then things are little more difficult and as Martin will testify.... Backups need to be tested regularly
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 10:02:40 AM »

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......within seconds of pressing search his computer crashed....the guy in the shop reckoned it picked up a virus and goosed the hard drive...

 Not enough information. Which bit is "Goosed"? Mechanics, electronics, corrupt programme?

  Regards  Ian.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 10:06:46 AM »

Provided the drive is not formatted as a dynamic type (a look at the drive(s) in administrative tools will tell) a FREE program called Easeus Todo  will do the job nicely, planting a complete copy of the C: drive/partition on the extrenal backup drive.  Takes less than 30 min to do the backup, then if disaster strikes, about the same to reload the entire system as it was when you saved it, as opposed to an hour or so to reload windows and a week or so to update it and get all your programs and settings back.  The same firm also do a very good partition manager, so you can create and adjust the size of the pretend discs that live on the same actual disc.
As someone said recently, if you dont have two copies of your data in different places, you didn't really value it in the first place.
Keeping files backed up is easier using MS's freebie "synctoy".  After you've got the folders copied, you just use Synctoy to pair those in the PC with those in the external drive, and run it.  The newest copy wins, both ways.  Simple, cheap, easy and effective.
Shopping around a bit, about 80 for 1TB is the going rate, give or take.
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 10:29:45 AM »

Are the terror bite drives reliable enough yet? There seems to be a lag getting reliability in ever increasing drive sizes, 250 to 500 giggly bite drives should have passed the test by now and with a few exceptions, should be more than ample for most on this forum.

  Regards   Ian
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 10:35:43 AM »

I have 2 Western Digital 1Terrabyte external USB drives and they are over a year and a half old with no issues
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 11:58:59 AM »

it's neil here........just an update....been to the shop  today and the owner says it looks like something "simple" (bearing in mind that something simple to me is leaving the plug out) {-) {-) {-) that it is the graphics or the ewe (or was it ram..don't wanna be sexist)..but he'll hopefully have me up and running agian in the next day or so........but apart from that....I haven't a b***** clue what most of you are on about, lol {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 01:03:41 PM »

We're mostly on about not having a badly set up PC permanently destroying the record of your life's work if just one small part fails.
A single dud element in a few thousand million on a memory stick can wreak havoc when used by the system to re-write a part of a program file, and it might only show up when a lot of memory is being used, for instance when doing something on Google Earth.  Been there and been confused by the results on a mates PC a few years ago.
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 04:13:00 PM »

Virus' that actually destroy the hard drive are very few and far between, as others have said there's no money in it....

There are also more fundamental reasons - a virus which destroys the hard drive won't spread very well....  :-)) :-))
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 07:49:17 PM »

3 x 1TB drives in constant, hard, use here for the past year, all OK. Can't remember the make, oops,  :embarrassed: but I have a feeling it's either Western Digital or Samsung, as that's what I normally use when I build my PCs.

"Oh, that must be a virus, your PC/hard disk/whatever is trashed." Heard that a few times, and then have usually fixed the simple and totally virus-unrelated issue in no time at all. Diagnostics isn't rocket science, well, OK, almost!  {-)
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 05:18:07 AM »

A message for Neil when he returns.....
If the hard drive is allegedly no good let me know... We have our tech monkeys here who do wonderful things with "broken" hard drives and they may be able to recover some of the data

Here is one of then scanning a hard drive boot sector:-
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2012, 07:14:33 AM »

"Oh, that must be a virus, your PC/hard disk/whatever is trashed." Heard that a few times, and then have usually fixed the simple and totally virus-unrelated issue in no time at all. Diagnostics isn't rocket science, well, OK, almost!  {-)

My cousin has trashed two laptops by spilling liquid on the keyboard. In both cases the "experts" quoted a ridiculous price for repair - and the Insurance company paid out for a new computer {-) {-) One needed a new 9.95 keyboard, the other a keyboard and Hard disc - cost about 70. My cousin has had two new laptops and her grandson and my daughter have new ones too %% %%

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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 08:50:31 AM »

Neil first encountered 'cloud computing' on the same day he decided to clean his workshop   {-)
He has since carefully labelled the defective unit.  O0



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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 11:26:01 AM »

And as if on cue, this freebie is available until 7.59AM tomorrow (19.07.12).

    http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/paragon-drive-copy-11/


   Regards   Ian.
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »

A message for Neil when he returns.....
If the hard drive is allegedly no good let me know... We have our tech monkeys here who do wonderful things with "broken" hard drives and they may be able to recover some of the data

Here is one of then scanning a hard drive boot sector:-


Neil,
you really should put your teeth in before appearing in public!
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 03:07:15 PM »

Neil,
you really should put your teeth in before appearing in public!
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Re: Neils computer
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »

Oh, so are you back then Neil? Tell us what happened then.. %)
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 03:27:45 PM »

graphics card needed replacing, and the socket needed doing as well that it plugs into.........something simple but to me..........tragic {-) {-) {-)
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