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Xtian29

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Tour de France
« on: July 22, 2012, 01:19:59 PM »

Hello

Felicitation mes amis Britanniques, vous avez un champion parmi vous

Congratulation to my British friends, there is a champion in Britain. First time in the history for a British to win the Tour de France, even the second place is your's !

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Xtian

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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 05:19:04 PM »

I've been watching the TdF for a good few years now, mostly for the scenery and sideshows in the districts that they pass through and the stories from the commentary team, but watching this year's Tour has been the cherry on the cake.  And I do like a cake with a cherry on.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 06:02:54 PM »

The finale on the Champs Elysees was a nail-biter, I thought the script wasnt being followed until the last few hundred metres.  I watched most of the stages on ITV4. Great coverage, great race, great winner.   I used to ride a "curly" Hetchins , anybody remember them ?
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 06:08:01 PM »

Yes arrow I think they had a great big wheel at the front and a very small one at the back.
and I think the pedals were fixed to the front wheel. {-) {-) %%

But joking apart what a proud time for British cycling. :-))

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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2012, 08:33:43 PM »

Congratulations to Wiggins, Cavendish and the whole SKY Team.  A moment of history.

I have been avidly following this event each day, but have had difficulty understanding how it works.  Wiggins has only won one stage, Cavanedish several.  Each day the news lists other names as the fastest for the stage.  So, how come Wiggins keeps retaining the leaders yellow jersey, and indeed has come to win?  The media just expect readers to 'know' without any explanation.
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2012, 08:43:34 PM »

You funny bas.... >:-o... O0.  No both wheels were 27".  Jeez I`m only 76.
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 08:55:11 PM »

Bob, it is the total time that the rider accrues over the whole race that determines the winner. The stage wins and daily point scoring (primes) are mainly but not only for other categories in the race. Check Wikipedia for explanation. One of the world`s greatest sporting events. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 09:09:45 PM »

Bob, it is the total time that the rider accrues over the whole race that determines the winner. The stage wins and daily point scoring (primes) are mainly but not only for other categories in the race. Check Wikipedia for explanation. One of the world`s greatest sporting events.  

The outright race winner, is the rider who completes the whole course in the shortest aggregate time. A 'stage' winner is the first rider who completes an individual leg. The holder of the yellow jersey or maillot jaune is the rider with the lowest aggregate time during the completed stages of the race.

Specialist riders also get points to become 'King of the Sprints' and King of the Mountains.'
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2012, 09:14:38 PM »

Correct, I should have said least time. :embarrassed:
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2012, 09:34:10 PM »

The whole thing seems to be completely arcane to me. There have been suggestions that Bradley Wiggins is the ulimate athlete but surely that title should go to people lile Daley Thomson or Jennifer Ennis who compete in a number of different disciplines.

To be honest i don't have any real interest in athletics at all, especially when a lot of it appears to be about money.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 09:56:31 PM »

The Wikipedia explanation was very informative.  Thank you.  It seems that six people have won without winning a single stage.  Maybe the BBC's online coverage failed to explain the event, unlike their very informative coverage of F1.
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 10:23:56 PM »

Well done the SKY Team, Catch it again on ITV Player.

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 11:10:53 PM »

The winner of the TdF does it over 3 weeks, on the flat, up hills and in time trials. This seems to me to be three disciplines, and it's not all over in 2 days, like the pent/dec athlons. The critical point about timings in the TdF is that everyone who finishes together gets the same time. So you can win by doing the fastest time trials, where individual times are recorded, and making sure you finish in the same group in every stage as your rivals.
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2012, 11:38:03 PM »

Well done to the British riders, a great effort for Britain's first ever TdF victory, and second place as well :-))

Cadel Evans did it for Australia last year, but was not up to it this time around. His win really put cycling on the map here, causing a huge upsurge in interest in the sport, and cycling generally.

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 07:37:10 AM »

The whole thing seems to be completely arcane to me. There have been suggestions that Bradley Wiggins is the ulimate athlete but surely that title should go to people lile Daley Thomson or Jennifer Ennis who compete in a number of different disciplines.
To be honest i don't have any real interest in athletics at all, especially when a lot of it appears to be about money.
Colin

You think it's arcane? .. Really?  The concept that the person who takes the shortest time to complete the whole course, wins, isn't a hard one to grasp surely?  I too have little interest in athletics but I can see that the Tour De France is incomparable in it's demands as an athletic pursuit. The result for the Sky team was gained by superb teamwork and amazing dedication and for once it's nice to see that done by people who were selfless in their attitudes.  For once it's refreshing to see sportsmen of this calibre set this type of exemplary example and I hope that it has the same result in this country that Peter said it did in Australia, we've had enough of bad role models, in general, here of late....
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2012, 10:25:30 AM »

I watched it on Eurosport.  Commentary by David Harmon, who knows what he is talking about and explains much to new viewers, Sean Kelly, who knows some of the practicalities of team racing, and Carlton Kirby, hidden in the Eurosport hidey-hole in Paris, who at need has a story for everywhere they pass, and has seemingly, at one time or another, owned more of France than the Plantaganets.  I have never been able to interest myself in watching someone running in circles, chasing a ball or chucking stuff, but the sheer spectacle of the Tour is something else.
Considering that cycle racing on public roads was all but illegal until the late 1950's in the UK, and the continentals were avidly practicing the sport for the previous 50 years, it is about time we managed to beat somebody else at their game, rather than out usual trick of inventing a game, then having the rest of the world overtake us.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 11:31:31 AM »

TdF, Giro and Vuelta are SWTSMBO essentil viewing at this time of the year. Superb result, only downer was t'other day when Frome dragged Bradley to 19 Secs of stage winner, Sky could have let him go and win the stage himself. Eurosports commentators for this and the Moto GP/ Superbike are the ones to listen to. Pity they don't still have F1.

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2012, 03:58:20 PM »

hi arrow5, Hetchins yes, Bates as well with the split saddle tube, how about the Paris galibea , we called it the "plumbers Nightmare".
Mine was an Ellis Briggs when everybody was riding a Flying Scott. Memories!! you bet & I have hit the wall many times,
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 07:03:17 PM »

The Tof F was well televised here in Canada & was great to watch. I loved the scenery, France is a beautiful country & the people in every town & city gave the event so much support, the crowds were amazing everywhere the tour went. It was staged as a class act @ every finish of every stage with the winning presentations done in a very classy way.The standard of the athletes was brilliant, I would consider it the best sporting event on the planet. My congratulations go to the British Sky team that for once really acted as a team & to the two British riders that finished first & second, a great race & also a great result for the British & well earned. Mick B.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2012, 10:57:25 PM »

hi arrow5, Hetchins yes, Bates as well with the split saddle tube, how about the Paris galibea , we called it the "plumbers Nightmare".
Mine was an Ellis Briggs when everybody was riding a Flying Scott. Memories!! you bet & I have hit the wall many times,
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Yep, Paris "Galibier", very short wheelbase machine. A clubmate had one.  The current time-trial bikes used in le Tour look kind of similar.    Of course the Glasgow built "Scot" by Rattary(sp?) if I remember.   What ever happened to the wheel driven dynamo ?   I`m currently riding a 70 quid teenager`s "mountain bike" from Tesco,weighs a ton but very comfy with suspension front and rear.  I remember bamboo rims  which I thought were rusty old steel things, silly me.  They were on the then current hill-climb champion`s machine. O0 O0 O0 {-)
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 12:59:24 AM »

The finale on the Champs Elysees was a nail-biter, I thought the script wasnt being followed until the last few hundred metres.  I watched most of the stages on ITV4. Great coverage, great race, great winner.   I used to ride a "curly" Hetchins , anybody remember them ?
were,nt they common in the latter part of the 19th century, {-) {-) {-)..joking aside,a Triumph,for Britain,
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 08:46:14 AM »

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 Not if slippery Salmon has his way, these guys are English  O0   {-)

  Regards   Ian
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 10:12:03 AM »

One English, one Kenyan/South African/British, and the fast line crosser is Manx.
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 03:02:13 PM »

and the English is born in one of the most famous bicycle country : Belgium, at Gent during the famous bicycle race 6 days of Gent.
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