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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #200 on: January 21, 2014, 05:54:14 PM »

Yes, but that copper is so pretty...  too much "bling".. around here they would call it "pimping your ride"... black paint coming out.  Tks for kind comments.  "Anchors Away".
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #201 on: January 21, 2014, 09:28:54 PM »

Dennis.  Wonderful to hear the progress on your health. Hopefully there will be many more awesome ships to build.   :-))
 
May I ask a silly question (not knowing as much as I should about period sailing ships.)
I can understand how the anchor is raised from the seabed using the capstan, but how did they then swing it alongside to stow in that position.  ie:  No crane, and surely the shrouds would have got in the way.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #202 on: January 22, 2014, 12:35:49 AM »

Tks Bob and a good question.  I refer to the experts for the best answer to your question and here is what I came up with: http://www.hnsa.org/doc/luce/part5.htm#pg279  Great site and easy to navigate for what you need.  It all has to do with leverage and purchase and using the yards.  Admittidely I was skeptical about securing to the deadeye region, but they did do it.  Anywhere from flipping a fluke over the cap rail to securing the anchor on deck.  I have yet a smaller anchor to rig and it will be done closer to the cathead.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #203 on: January 22, 2014, 11:54:09 AM »

Many thanks for that link Dennis.  Very interesting site
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #204 on: January 22, 2014, 11:31:38 PM »

Ok, starboard anchors are in.

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #205 on: January 22, 2014, 11:32:14 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #206 on: January 22, 2014, 11:32:56 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #207 on: January 23, 2014, 08:22:44 AM »

I am enjoying the fine detail Dennis, great work!

This business of hanging the anchors on the side seems a bit odd, I would have thought they would be stored aboard somewhere but I suppose there is not room, also being where they are would make them much easier to deploy.... Loving it!!!
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #208 on: January 28, 2014, 03:18:07 AM »

MrPenguin - Anchors with metal stocks that can be easily moved to parallel the shank were stowed on deck for some vessels. Without the stock jutting at right angles to the flukes, they could be laid on deck and lashed down. Deep sea cargo ships of the 1900's, eg. Pamir, would stow their anchors on deck once they were clear of the shore. The anchor would be re-mounted on the rail, and be re-shackled to the anchor chain, as the ship neared it's destination.
 
The earlier style, wooden stock anchors of a 1765 frigate, though, were harder to "de-stock". With the stock still mounted, the anchor would take up a lot of volume on the foredeck, and the flukes or stock would interfere with jib sheets and the working of the guns. The ship would remove the cable from the anchor, once they were in deep water, so that it could be stowed below decks. Stowing the hemp cable protected it against chafe and uv-light, and also gave it a chance to dry out.

John Harland's "Seamanship in the age of sail" delves deeply in to anchor handling, if you wish more information.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #209 on: January 28, 2014, 03:40:21 AM »

Thanks Brooks!

This is all new territory to me, watching Dennis' build with great interest...
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #210 on: January 30, 2014, 12:52:49 AM »

Installed the Dolphin Striker or Martingale.  Associated tensioning block and tackle.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #211 on: January 30, 2014, 12:53:21 AM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #212 on: February 03, 2014, 11:18:22 PM »

Ok, the Spritsail Yard is now installed.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #213 on: February 04, 2014, 01:43:34 PM »

Lovely job Dennis  :-)).  Must be pretty close to finishing her now.  Does she have a name?  I know she began as the Ajax but I think you were intending to produce a more generic model of a frigate of the period. 

Can't wait to see a picture of her fully rigged.

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #214 on: February 04, 2014, 01:53:21 PM »

She's looking fantastic - great work Dennis, and educational too :-))
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #215 on: February 04, 2014, 03:25:54 PM »

The realism is so intense that I can't help feeling that I would not like being a sailor having to go out on that yard to get the Spritsail in. 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #216 on: February 04, 2014, 05:55:33 PM »

Thanks for the kind comments gentlemen.  The model is probably a year away from complete.  On top of that, everything is a bit uncertain as I battle this cancer.  Doctors are very optimistic that they can buy me a number of years, but won't know for sure on that until the Chemo is completed in a few months.  So far, I can still build and that helps me keep my mind focused as this is such a rewarding hobbie as all of you know.  I will probably move back to complete the install of the tops on the masts, then I can begin the yards.  The rigging is going to get intense to say the least.  Yes, the detail is fun and I am trying to get out a "typical" English Frigate, using the great set of plans I have and backup library, plus the internet and comments from you dear people, I hope will yield a nice model.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #217 on: February 04, 2014, 05:59:00 PM »

As a side note on detail.  I could not resist including the "typical" "Loo".  As I have read, this is how they did it, climing out onto the bow and sitting over that hole in all manner of weather, allowing the waves to flush.  It was probably pretty "ripe" out there, one would think {:-{
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #218 on: February 06, 2014, 09:16:59 PM »

Boomkins are installed.  This completes the initial standing rigging for the bowsprit, so its on to the Royals.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #219 on: February 13, 2014, 09:06:46 PM »

Ok, the foremast is now completed and all standing rigging for that installed.  Ready for yards, but first, must build the main royal mast, install and standing rigging for that.  Model is getting tall.  I ordered the model base from Bluejacket Shipcrafters.  Nicely milled out of Cherry.  I'm staining and varnishing now.  Model will be mounted soon.  I also ordered some very nice rigging line from Syren Ship Model Company.  The owner makes his own rigging line out of linen/cotton blend using a rope walk.  3 stran is very clean, no fuzz. Expensive at $4.50/15yds in various sizes.  Black, beige, dark brown.  He also makes beautiful (non running) blocks from either yellow boxwood or pear.  Here is the link if you are interested:
http://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com
Pictures to follow.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #222 on: February 13, 2014, 10:24:49 PM »

OK....I knew I had seen the source of the white halo's reflected on the window...... :D....here it is from October 2013........ O0 ....Derek

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #223 on: February 14, 2014, 01:59:33 AM »

Derek... your fixation on halos is not irrent....... that is a UFO..... they have been following me 8)


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #224 on: February 20, 2014, 08:52:21 PM »

All masts and standing rigging are installed.  Foremast, lower yard is next.
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