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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #225 on: February 20, 2014, 10:52:14 PM »

Nice... :-))

Maybe it is the lighting or camera angle, but the foremast looks like it is leaning forward...?
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #226 on: February 21, 2014, 01:24:54 AM »

It is.  I fought that one.  There is a natural degree to rake forward, but I ran into tensioning troubles, had to re-do some of my back stay rigging, but could not get all of the rake I wanted out.  I'm still assessing if I should demo the stays and rerig that foremast before continuing.  I'm sitting in my moaning chair this moment.  Tks for the kind tip.


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #227 on: February 21, 2014, 02:40:47 AM »

Maybe you could tighten the foremast shroud deadeyes a bit, they should pull it back maybe...?
Or perhaps just ease some of the lines running forward from that mast (cant remember the names of them all...)
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #228 on: February 21, 2014, 08:23:06 AM »

Dennis,
She is beautiful......but that fore top mast needs some attention I am afraid. Not easy to do at this stage without releasing quite a bit of cordage! {:-{
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #229 on: February 21, 2014, 08:43:36 PM »

Sri guys, it is what it is.  Too much demo to make straight.  Just visualize a strong breeze coming from aft.  As someone said a long time ago looking at one of my models..... my, sure is a bunch of sticks and strings.   ok2
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #230 on: February 21, 2014, 09:17:42 PM »

Dennis,
This is when it is probably most noticeable in any case. Once the spars (and sails ?) are on it will be much less obvious I reckon.

I am really enjoying this build, have learnt a lot on the way through... :-))
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #231 on: February 22, 2014, 12:31:28 AM »

Thank you sir.  Believe me, I have thought long and hard on this.  Ship rigging is complex and lots of physics involved where one thing affects another, that affects another.  I am sorely remiss at not catching this earlier, as the error is rather deep and to make a proper correction would require de-rigging down too far.  I too am hoping that further rigging and with the yards up will detract some.  Sails would help a great deal and the verdict is still out on wither I want to rig with sails.  I have only done that on one other model, using "silkspan" for the sails and having my dear wife sew in the seam lines.  It actually worked very well.  I stained the tissue with an oil based oak stain and brought in a bellow set to the sails using clear satin varnish, using a fan to fill the sails and let it dry that way... it actually worked.  That model is now in a museum in Japan.  Hmmmm.... I just might do it on this one.  That will add another year to the project.


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #232 on: February 22, 2014, 08:06:47 AM »

I think Mrpenguin is right Dennis. When sparred and rigged it will not really be noticeable. I like the sound of your sail system. I have never out sails on a model as I was always concerned that they would not look natural.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #233 on: February 22, 2014, 10:57:05 AM »

I think Mrpenguin is right Dennis. When sparred and rigged it will not really be noticeable. I like the sound of your sail system. I have never out sails on a model as I was always concerned that they would not look natural.
I seem to recall someone posted a method for smaller boats than this one, where the sails (made from parchment paper I think) were cut an off shape (parallelogram I think) that made them look like they were filled all the time; they looked great. Don't think it would work with a boat this size though...
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #234 on: February 22, 2014, 06:26:28 PM »

Sails are a touchy matter on model ships.... if done right, they can be outstanding, if done wrong, they can ruin a model.  I might try a few up and some furled, still thinking on that.  If no sails, less running rigging.... I love to add the rigging, but boy, it gets real crazy.  Much easier on a large scale model of course.  I'm still amazed at the wonderful work a gentleman here on the forum does with miniture scale clipper ships... his sails are perfection and I think he uses wire to support and shape the sails.


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #235 on: February 23, 2014, 10:37:58 PM »

Lower foremast yard is ready to mount.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #236 on: February 23, 2014, 10:38:33 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #237 on: February 23, 2014, 10:39:02 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #238 on: February 23, 2014, 10:40:31 PM »

Helper.  Approaching a foot of snow today.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #239 on: February 24, 2014, 06:35:21 PM »

Lovely work there Dennis, even the footropes below the spars (often omitted by some modellers).
 
The "ships cat" appears to be showing you where it wants to be placed  {-)
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #240 on: February 24, 2014, 08:56:10 PM »

The "ships cat" appears to be showing you where it wants to be placed  {-)

If he creases that plan anymore, id show him what a foot deep in the a@@@ :) - sorry - snow is like
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #241 on: February 27, 2014, 08:05:51 PM »

I let her crease the plans... she bites! O0   Course yard is mounted and some of the running rigging installed, such as the Braces including the Spritsail, also the Lifts and Pendants.  Stunsail Booms are in, but not deployed.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #242 on: February 27, 2014, 08:06:58 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #243 on: February 28, 2014, 07:58:14 AM »

We have all learned to expect top notch work from you Dennis. You have not let us down! :-))
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #244 on: February 28, 2014, 10:32:49 AM »

I'm going to have up my game if I want my future vessel to look that good  :o
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #245 on: February 28, 2014, 06:53:47 PM »

Thank you for the kind words.  I think we can all agree that this sort of hobby is a labor or love and very rewarding.  Perfection will never be reached, although some builders come very close.  Believe me, I'm a long way from it.  I know all of my errors and I have learned that I must adopt the attitude that I'll do the best I can and if I blow it from time to time, I just move on and not let it defeat me.  Only when it stops being fun, is when one should stop and I'm not sure if even then.......


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #246 on: March 03, 2014, 11:53:20 PM »

Foremast lower yard and sprit fully rigged in.  Lots of block and tackle.  Next is up the foremast to the Topsail Yard.  I have decided not to hank on sails, so yards will be lowered to storage position.  Depth of field on macro lens is tricky, bear with me.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #247 on: March 03, 2014, 11:54:30 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #248 on: March 03, 2014, 11:55:55 PM »

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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #249 on: March 04, 2014, 03:48:18 AM »

@dlancast:
Is this (highlighted) supposed to be a hook, or has something given way?
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