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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2013, 05:55:11 PM »


 Yes, a great build Dennis.  :-))

 Ah, that must be it, I'm getting my running  and my standing rigging mixed up.

 The cold tar stuff, does it dry hard?
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2013, 06:41:19 PM »

Hi Martin,  Well, that depends, if you apply thick cold tar down on a rope, it will never harden, will remain sticky and will smear.  It is my understanding (now, I have never done this) that the tar is heated to a thin liquid and sometimes Linseed oil is added.  It is then painted onto the rigging and will dry hard in a few days.  To fully impregnate the rope fibers, the tar is heated to 200 degs and the rope run through copper vats to allow the tar to soak in.  The smell can be impressive.  I found this link: http://www.bartleby.com/23/8.html from "Two Years Before the Mast" that summarizes what they used to do at sea.  Can you believe, you can still get Stockholm Tar and "Tarring Down"  is done on present sailing vessels in the traditional manner.


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2013, 12:44:25 AM »

Absolutely fascinating build Dennis :-))
 
Just as an aside - if you watch Royal Navy sailors, when they salute, their hand is tilted slightly forward. This is a tradition which, I believe, stems from the time when sailors hands were covered in tar from working the rigging and was, therefore, a mark of respect so that they wouldn't present a "dirty" hand to the officer or, more accurately, to the officers commission - yes, that's correct. The rating salutes the commission, not the man.
Same for all the armed services O0
 
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2013, 08:03:32 PM »

Just so you folks didn't think I was goofing off.  Been working on ratlins for lower main shrouds.  Clove hitch after clove hitch.  Going to be at this for a while, so bear with me.  Oh the joy! ;)
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2013, 10:04:14 PM »

@dlancast,
Dennis, thanks for this thread, finding it great.
Your efforts are not wasted in posting, let me assure you. I am currently building for an "Eco Challenge" where one has to built a boat that will sail from recycled material.
Inspired by your build and with quite a bit copied from a kit for USS Constiution that I have laying around here, I have got the hull to the point where it would float, and in the last couple of days have got the masts up and just about finished the standing rigging. The hull is 12 x 600ml milk bottles, decks are corflute from an old real estate sign. I am yet to build a bow and stern shape.... Most of it is held together with 50mmm tape - no glue used at all yet...

Doing the standing rigging was just SO much fun...... loved it...
This is definitely NOT a static model it has to sail.. :-)
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2013, 10:55:34 PM »

At last, got the ratlines in on the lower main shrouds.  Installed the Futtock Shrouds and ratlines, Futtock Staves and lower top deadeyes.  Installed the Crowsfeet, threaded through the Euphroe and attached to the Forestay with single block and tackle.  Something I was really not aware off.  I had always thought that the crowsfeet were for support to the lower top, but actually, the crowsfeet was used as a chafing preventor for the lower main sail... go figure {:-{ .  Next is to start the mizzen mast.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2013, 10:58:20 PM »

Oops, got the wrong pic up there.  Here it is.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2013, 01:30:16 PM »

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2013, 08:24:40 PM »

Ok, the mizzen lower mast is stepped.  Glue needs to dry, then back to shrouds and ratlines (again).
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2013, 11:44:36 PM »

Very much impressed Dennis - you must have the patience of a saint and hands as steady as Gibraltar  O0
 
Lovely job  :-))
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2013, 12:01:31 AM »

Tks Ray, well... don't know about that.  Sometimes the room turns blue and sometimes, these 68 yr old hands start to commence shaking (especially when I paint) and I have to hold with both hands... gets pretty wild sometimes.  But am thankful that I can still do this small work.  It is very calming and I do think it keeps my hand/eye coordination somewhat sharp.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2013, 08:36:00 PM »

Well, some delays dealing with doctor appts and such.  Just installed the mizzen lower Preventer Stay with block and tackle, mouse and all that.  Is it summer yet?
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2013, 10:29:07 PM »

@dlancast:
 
Dennis, what is the deck item between these two masts?
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2013, 11:16:13 PM »

Ahhh... that would be the upper deck "Capstan".  The capstan was vital for very heavy hauling jobs such as weighing anchor, raising topsail yards, or lifting guns from the hold.  I have not installed the capstan bars as of yet.  I will wait until more rigging is in.  Hope that helps sir.


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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #89 on: March 12, 2013, 08:37:51 PM »

Lower mizzen Forestay in.  Hearts installed, laced with lanyard.  Next, back to ratlin work.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2013, 09:06:13 PM »

Well, I've reached another milestone today.  All lower masts are in and rigged with standing rigging, deadeyes, etc.  Next we move up forward to begin bringing the topmasts in starting with the foremast, which will add some more bowsprit rigging, etc.  The rig on this ship is quite tall and will change her look as we go up now.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #91 on: March 18, 2013, 09:10:03 PM »

A lovely model, I have always wanted to have ago at masted vessels but my knacked fingers, eyes and hands means all I will do is make a mess and get very frustrated. Well done on making a superb frigate and for posting so that people like me can marvel at the piccies, thank you.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #92 on: March 18, 2013, 10:29:44 PM »

Very nice Dennis...
 
Having recently completed a (much rougher) square rigger mainly from recycled materials (part of an online challenge), I was surprised at just how long it too to complete the boat above deck. I found the masts (one piece masts in my case) to be relatively quick to build - it seemed to take forever to make the 15 sails, the yards and so forth and then to get all the running rigging working. Now it is completed, I am learning to sail it - that is a whole new ball game as they say - it is nothing like a sloop rig to sail.....
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #93 on: March 20, 2013, 12:11:18 AM »

Fore Topmast, trestle trees, cross trees and cap in but not set.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #94 on: March 20, 2013, 07:50:23 PM »

Topmast painted and "set".  Standing rigging and deadeyes next.  On this model, height from deck to truck for the foremast, will be 22" to give you an idea of model size.  Starting Friday, I'll be quiet for a few days, as I'm having surgery.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #95 on: March 20, 2013, 09:45:59 PM »

Thank you for the update Dennis, the photo's of the foretop mast give a reasonable impression of how, when complete, the masts balance up the overall size of the vessel you're building.  :-))
 
Hope the surgery all goes well for you... O0
 
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2013, 12:38:06 AM »

I have been watching for the past months Dennis without further comment......still brilliant work  O0
All the best for tomorrow........remember if you get a chance.... %)  surgery's always have a good supply of very sharp scalpel's ...........
Very handy for cutting model rigging ropes  {-) {-) {-)  ..... Derek
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2013, 01:31:01 AM »

Thank you kind sirs for your compliments and well wishes.  Good folks on this forum.  I'll ask about the blades.  Just a side note.  I happened to pick up Xacto #11 blades in stainless steel.  I like, stronger and hold an edge much longer.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #98 on: March 21, 2013, 09:15:59 PM »

Fore Topmast standing rigging in.  I'll be back in a few days.
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Re: Building a static 1765 English Frigate
« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2013, 09:45:21 PM »

Both Topmast backstays are in, just mounted the lower Topmast forestay with detail on how it attaches to the bowsprit tensioned with blocks and sheaves.  There will be two forestays for the Topmast, starboard is the lower, port will be the upper, yet to be installed.  Darn, my macro lens on my camera shows too much detail.
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