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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2012, 10:47:00 AM »

Some more pics were set to me last night



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Certainly coming along rather nicely
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2012, 09:59:47 PM »

ive progressed to making up the solid balsa bow blocks , lots of wood shaving and sanding ! once they have been made identical they too will be glued to the keel / stem and back to the bulkhead , going to take a short break as i need to machine a new adapter plate for a brushless motor to fit into my graupner mini waterjet ! jon
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2012, 06:51:13 PM »

the short break was very short , took less than an hour in my mates workshop ( machine shop at the bottom of his garden ) to fabricate my adapter plate , im now back onto the restoration of my barge  . both the port & starboard bow blocks have been carved from solid balsa and glued onto the keel / stem and first bulkhead , ive now started to infill the planking between the midships and bow block . jon
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2012, 08:08:46 AM »

the second skin of diagonal planking has now been glued in place along the entire hull , and has been sanded to a smooth and flowing shape , just the opposite side to second skin , ive also started shaping the sub deck , which will be in two halves joined along the centre , im still undecided weather to individually plank the deck or have it painted ? more photos to follow  jon
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2012, 12:09:30 PM »

The photos to follow :)







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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2012, 09:34:38 PM »

That's better, it is starting to look like a boat again!!!
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 09:26:09 PM »

yes slowly its starting to resemble a sailing barge hull once more , i had a slight change when i started to lay the second layer of planking and ive continued the planking along the complete length of the hull , hoping it will help make the hull a little stronger , before i laminate the hull & bulwarks in grp ? im also shaping the two halves of deck before i fit the bulwarks , working on the theory it will be much easier to offer up the decking ! jon
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2012, 12:27:25 PM »

Hi there Triumphjon, your restoration is certainly a work of art and labour of love. Congratulations on doing such a thorough job. She will be worth the effort. I recently completed a build of a Thames barge and referred a lot to the Association of Model Barge Owners. They have a lot of detailed advice and are worth contacting if you havn't already done so. I also referred to books such as 'An Illustrated guide to Thames Sailing Barges' by Peter & Rita Phillips, 'Sailing Barges' by Martin Hazell, 'The Thames Sailing Barge, Her Gear and Rigging' by Dennis J Davis and 'Spritsail Bargemen' by Derek Coombe. I have not had a lot of experience of sailing this sort of model but considering the amount of sail she will carry, for what its worth, I would suggest you forget the leeboard control and go for a cental fixed keel. There is a picture on here under 'Thames Barge' showing my 'Betty May' caught in a gust of wind. The hand rails are very close to the water line and she has 3kg of lead hanging 300mm below the bottom of the hull and a further !kg in the hull. Keep up the good work. Graham.  :-))
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2012, 01:55:04 PM »

thank you graham , i keep looking in our maritime bookstore , its typical when i didnt have the barge they had books on them in stock , now theyd be of use the shop hasnt got any ! ive joined the A M B O  forum just over a week ago , so hoping to gain some inspiration . dont think the leeboards would give me the stability that im going to need , so having an underslung keel is the better way to go , i quite like the wing keel , my brother in laws australia 2 has one and it works very well as it also allows sailing in shallower waters , and hasnt to date got snagged in the weed !  jon
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2012, 02:54:46 PM »

Looking good so far Jon,
defo a keel as opposed to leeboards for stability.
On your original post the mizzen looks a lot bigger than
the norm on a tsb.
I was just a pocket hanky of a sail for help in manoeuvering.


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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2012, 05:10:27 PM »

not really sure if the sails are the correct size or maybe oversize , it was what it was wearing when i collected the model . the bowsprit that was fitted also looks very long to my eyes too , it makes the overall length from 50 1/2 inches stem to rudder to over 68 inches long ! i was planing to have the sprit  but only use it for light airs , in the same way i can remove sails should the wind be much stronger .
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Re: rebiulld / restoration of a coastal thames barge
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2012, 09:37:42 PM »

not much been done to the barge this week  , ive been side tracked with trying to prepare a couple of models for an end of year three mile sail ! , however the second layer of planking is almost finished , the sub deck has been shaped and the planking for the  deck has been ordered . following a little digging i now know which barge ive got , its WILL EVERARD  built from the 1952 plan in model maker , it will probably not be called WILL  but may become one of the other three  that were part of the same batch of four vessels that everard owned in the 30s . jon
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