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Unknown Little Red Boat
« on: December 29, 2012, 07:15:28 PM »

A few years ago I purchased this little red unfinished boat.
The hull is made from ply, the ribs and supports in balsa. Along with a cute and little if not winy motor  :}
It has the style of an Eeze bilt kit, something similar to the Neptune or Mermaid  http://eezebilt.hobby-site.com/Range.html    but on the model the prop is right at the stern either in error or as it should be ?.
The motor would appear to drive the prop by using I assume rubber bands.
Any help appreciated

Looking at the above site I can say that it is not the Mermaid or Neptune looking at the build instructions.
 

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 08:53:15 PM »

Hi Longbuild,
  Sorry, don't know the boat, but I think that this is your motor.
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 08:55:39 PM »

Motor is a "Mighty Midget" by Victory industries, Length and beam of boat might help?
 
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 Posting at same time David, VIP were responsible for the Plastic Crash Tender, same motor, also used in the cars they made.
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 09:05:55 PM »

The prop is almost level with the stern as the rudder rould be fitted to the transom and a toothed quadrant fitted to the deck.
The rudder would have a tiller arm that engaged with the teeth to allow the rudder to be set.

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 09:46:46 PM »

This looks suspiciously like a straight runner to me
 
 
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 11:15:32 AM »

The motor probably dates it to the late '50's, early'60's, so pre small radio.  Everything was a straight runner then.
Any rudder fitted, probably off the transom, would have been not so much for steering, as a trim tab to compensate for side winds or hopefully causing it to travel in a curve, causing it to return to the same bank.  Looking at the pictures, it looks like a sloped transom - that might have been a sticking point for the original builder and why it was never completed.
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 11:39:04 AM »

Hello always nice to see a Mighty Midget motor, the armature is a very well made commercial, rather than toy item.  I use a Mighty Midget in my Hobbies Anglian trawler (no RC) and find that the best drive bands are the small ones found around spring onions and the like, so when you next visit Sainsburys a close inspection of the salad produce could be useful.  (There are other Stores available).

This is an early motor and it also came without the bearings for a gear train, also the brush design could vary.  Much used in early non proportional servos.

About 3 watts max output, I think if used as a straight runner in competition one could have a teas break waiting for her to arrive.
The boat hull does not ring any bells for me, what are the dimensions?
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 01:22:27 PM »

Tornado and Telectra designs both had the "Rear hung" prop and virtually flat bottomed transoms but both designs had twin rudders either side of the prop shaft. As the hull doesn't seem to have seen a drive unit fitted, perhaps the "work in progress" would have answered the question.
 
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2012, 05:34:54 PM »

Thanks for the info guys  :-))
Length is 470mm
Width  105mm
Larry
 

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 06:09:12 PM »

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Thanks for the info guys  :-))
Length is 470mm
Width  105mm
Larry

Respect the lady's age   Inches, surely O0 O0

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2012, 07:38:30 PM »

Eighteen an a bit by   just ower fower.
 
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 10:45:25 AM »

The prop is almost level with the stern as the rudder rould be fitted to the transom and a toothed quadrant fitted to the deck.
The rudder would have a tiller arm that engaged with the teeth to allow the rudder to be set.

Bob

How would it attach to the transom ?

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 10:52:06 AM »

Gudgeon and Pintle ??


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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 10:57:24 AM »

Gudgeon and Pintle ??


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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 10:57:36 AM »

Hi ya there is this not a model made from the Hobbys Weekly plan - I think it may have originally been called Patricia?   If you do a search of the forum I myself built one - the year I was born :-) I built her slightly differently to the plan though; I will dowload some photographs which will follow shortly.
 
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2014, 10:59:19 AM »

Thanks john

In the meantime I did find this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudgeon

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2014, 11:12:33 AM »

   If you do a search of the forum I myself built one - the year I was born :-)
 
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2014, 11:15:34 AM »

 :-))
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2014, 12:04:16 PM »

I found this in an old models catalogue...

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2014, 04:10:48 PM »

Thanks for those pictures John, Don't suppose you have 1 showing the stern and rudder a bit more do you.. :}

Thanks also Mark.  :-))

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2014, 08:41:19 PM »

hi ya there; TheLongBuild - Tomorrow I will try and post some photographs of the rudder and back end of the boat.   I seem to be having a bit of a problem putting photographs and adding a post at the same time - keeps timing out for some unknown reason.   The photographs need to be resizing as well.
 
Anyhow, the rudder on the model which I build, I altered it slightly as I cut a slot in the back of the hull to allow the tiller arm from the rudder to go through and connect up to a mini servo which is mounted in the back of the boat.   I believe that on the plans, this is not the chosen method obviously, because they didnt have mini servos in those days :-) the tiller arm came up over onto the back deck and set into a ratchet afair.   I am (to be honest) trying to find the magazine and plans but somewhere I have misplaced them.   I know Martin Mayhem may have copies cos I remember receiving the originals back from Martin and I have put them some SAFE - that safe I cant find them ;-) .
 
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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2014, 09:28:13 PM »

Thanks.
I have bid on the mag, so see how that goes, failing that could ask Martin to see if he has a copy as he is supposed to be on light duties !!

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2014, 09:37:03 PM »

I've just noticed that I do in fact have an original copy of the magazine & plan so could scan it & post the images on here if it'd be helpful?

Anyway - let me know & I'll sort it in the morning...

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Re: Unknown Little Red Boat
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2014, 09:53:34 PM »

All would be useful,if you don't mind  :-))
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