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Lash151

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Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« on: January 16, 2013, 12:44:32 pm »
Hi... I am sort of planning a warship build... I have downloaded some plans of HMS Prince of Wales and am currently drawing the bulkheads...I spend a fair bit of time on a computer... drawing plans and maps etc... so its more natural to me to construct the ship on screen, so to speak, before I test my (barely adequate) building skills!!  I am looking at the best way to build this hull from scratch..whether to fix the bulkheads to a spine or whether to mount them on the flat bottom of the hull... Please forgive my use of wrong terminology. Does anyone have any thoughts on building these hulls and the best way to go about it?  Thanks in advance...Lee

Here is the ship and the bulkhead drawings overlaid...
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 01:18:10 pm »
"Spine" is called the Keel  Lee. (Don't worry, you'll get used to it) In the case shown, you'd be better using a flat base and glueing bulkheads to it. By using two thicknesses of sheet for the base, the centre part can be cut out to keep the weight down and use the "Scrap" for other parts of the construction. What you're doing is making the base part as "Bread and Butter" construction and sheeting the sides.
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 01:28:10 pm »
Have a look through some other builds on here, nice example:
 
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=39068.0
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 01:37:20 pm »
Poor example, (Not the construction, that's excellent), most of the cross sections on Lee's show a flat base. You have to look at other examples depending on the type of vessel. HMS Amazon freebie plan shows a good example of the type I explained.
 
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 01:40:36 pm »
Thanks guys... I have built hulls before but not a battle ship hull... I didn't realise it was still called a keel if it wasn't visible!  I looked at quite a few builds on here... some are using a flat bottom, some using a keel construction... I think I favour the flat bottom approach. Any other thoughts on this subject are greatly appreciated.
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 02:01:49 pm »
thats going to be a beautiful shape when you have got it on the baseboard! It seems like you may be asking a lot of questions on here! I dont know what size/scale you are intending to make this in,but have a look at the beginnings of my build of HMS RAMILLIES,which will show how I did mine.Anything I can help you with,dont be afraid to ask!
Mick F
 
     
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=35580.msg354981#msg354981
     
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 03:13:17 pm »
HI Mick...
I was planning to build her at 1/128th scale so I can take advantage of fittings kits available. Yes I am drawn to this ship because i liked the appearance of the hull especially. I am going to draw all the superstructure on the computer too so I can break it down like a virtual kit...

The Ramilles build is very interesting... especially the direction of the planking... thanks for showing me that.
By the way, I hope I am not asking too many questions... !!  :embarrassed:
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 03:19:52 pm »
Lee,
ask away,that is what this site is all about,helping each other! My model is 1/96th,so is 6foot 6inches long.I think there is a Duke of York (sister ship to yours) on here somewhere?
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 03:25:02 pm »
another sister ship is King George 5,and there are some answers on this here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36367.0
 
I can only think he is only using two motors because of space saving
hope this helps
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 11:42:05 pm »
Hi Lee!

My method to tackling the hull of a battleship (7'+) is here.

Do, please, consider a scale bigger than 1/128th.  %) There's loads of fittings in 1/96th. And they start to get chunky by 1/72nd.  O0

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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 03:00:52 am »
I hope you do a build thread too  O0

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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 10:31:25 am »
Hi Dave...
Yes I will do, although it might be a while before I start this one.... I should be finishing my Waveney... and I also want to build a Sub Chaser which I was drawing plans for.... !!
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 12:45:26 pm »
Quote from: dreadnought72 on January 16, 2013, 11:42:05 pm
Hi Lee!

Do, please, consider a scale bigger than 1/128th.

Apart from seeing my wife look even more horrified than usual.... what would the benefits be of going for 1/96th?   :}

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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 01:07:07 pm »
HMS Prince of Wales:

1/96th = 7'9" = 110lb
1/128th = 5'10" = 47lb

That's 1'11" and 63lb of more awesome.  O0

Slightly more seriously, the Dreadnought I'm building at 1/72nd is 7'3" and 108lb - very similar to PoW at 1/96th. It's not insanely large (like a certain HMS Daring on this 'ere forum) but it still has a certain presence which befits the ship, that it wouldn't have if smaller. I'm told building larger makes for a more realistic sailing performance on the water, and you get more internal room to bung stuff in, too.

What's not to love?!  %%

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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 01:13:10 pm »
It is tempting Andy... (Manic grin  :} )
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 01:38:22 pm »
You really ought pop out to the car with a tape measure.  %)

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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 08:47:47 pm »
Quote from: dreadnought72 on January 17, 2013, 01:38:22 pm
You really ought pop out to the car with a tape measure.  %)

Andy
Or buy a trailer  %) %)
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 10:16:46 pm »
The problem is I live in a house thats 1/128th scale...  :}
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Re: Warship Hull Building... what are your thoughts
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 04:58:05 pm »
Quote from: Lash151 on January 17, 2013, 01:13:10 pm
tempting Andy
Now why does that really sound like a super nick name :}
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