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Ideas for next boat
« on: January 25, 2013, 12:38:16 PM »

It has been a few years since last I built a model due to moving from a property which had a large garage and plenty of building space to a tiny one bedroom flat.  I have decided that I would like to build a small (no longer than 500mm, or so) boat and would prefer the bulk of the construction to be in styrene.  What my main question to the forum is can you recommend any plans which would be suitable?  Additionaly has anyone scratch built a hull from styrene?  I should probably add that I would prefer a working type boat (hence the posting in ehre) and that I plan on fitting it out with all the appropriate electrics for rc sailing. 
 
I look forward to your suggestions and advice.
 
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 12:53:36 PM »


Hi, there was/is a tug model entirely from plasti card, named CIVITAVECCHIA, via http://www.angelfire.com/empire/webb/MainFrame_Home.htm
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 02:44:49 PM »

What type of working boat are you looking at? Virtually all the hard chine designs would be reasonably easy to make but if you are looking at round bilge types, you need to be able to work with hot plastic, either vac forming or a heat gun and stretch molding.
 
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 04:19:46 PM »

I would consider most working boats so long as I could find a plan which works in with the max size I can work with at the moment or a plan which I could scale down easily.  A small tug might be a good option.  I do not have the luxury of being able to work with hot plastic so hard chined type hull is a good idea.  I will have a look on some of the plans websites and see what I can find.
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 04:25:52 PM »

Look on here at Krishnas builds.
Made in foam board but plasticard
would work.


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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 06:21:19 PM »

There was a plan for a Rhine pusher tug floating around a few years ago, the Egrete, I think.  That was built in styrene and was nearly all flat panals.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 06:58:42 PM »

Another that may be of interest. http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/search.asp?k=conakry&x=9&y=13
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 07:07:50 PM »

Springer tugs or virtually any boat can be built with foamex,  that's a plastic board that cuts like styrene but is nit as brittle. Bends and curves are made by. Immersing it in hot water then tac glueing it in position. If you have a sign maker in your area ask him he may have off cuts for free.. Tac with super glue and then weeks with PVC pipe solvent.  I find the gel is the best sort of glue it gives a but more positioning time
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 07:43:27 PM »

Garyg

Have a look at the Model Slipway Clyde Puffer - 1/72nd scale - comes out at
about 12" long and if you are careful you can squeeze a sound effects box,
and a smoke generator in there!

Brilliant Kit! - I thoroughly enjoyed building mine!

Link : http://www.modelslipway.com/puffer/puffer.htm

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:48:20 PM »

thank you for you're respones.  I must admit that I have never been keen on pusher/springer tugs.  I know many other people are huge fans but they are just not for me.  Having said that they do fit my requirements very well!
Richald, I do like the puffers.  They really are lovely.  What size of motor did you fit to yours?  How does it perform on the water?  There is a stunning model puffer in the Dunvegan bakery, Skye!  Strange place to display model boats but there are some others on display.  The doughnuts are also highly recommended!
 

I will look into foamex as a building material.  Klunk...  What do you mean by weeks with PVC pipe solvent?
 

I had a look through Krishna's vosper build and found it very inspring.  I especially liked the recycling of goods which normally end up in the bin!
I have come accross the "tiddler" plan which looks quite promising.  No drawing scaling would be required which is an additional bonus.  I have seen some stunning tid tug builds elsewhere on this forum so I would imagine there is plenty of advice available on such a build.
http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/17075/tiddler-v104-tug-plan
I should probably add that my girl friend thinks the tid tug looks like a whale!
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 11:16:39 PM »

weld with pvc pipe solvent sorry
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 11:27:21 PM »

Ah yes of course!  Thanks!
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 11:40:36 PM »

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Richald, I do like the puffers.  They really are lovely.  What size of motor did you fit to yours?  How does it perform on the water?

The kit comes complete with a cassette motor, propshaft and prop which are more than adequate to
propel the puffer at over-scale speed. the rudder mounts and hinges are made up from bent/soldered
etched brass components.

a couple of pictures

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Re: Ideas for next boat
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Re: Ideas for next boat
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2013, 07:48:47 PM »

The puffer looks good!  I ordered the tiddler plan today!  Can anyone advise on the suitability of a graupner 280 motor for the tiddler?
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 09:38:47 AM »

The puffer looks good!  I ordered the tiddler plan today!  Can anyone advise on the suitability of a graupner 280 motor for the tiddler?

I'd think I'd go a little bigger.  My own TID is about 600 mm and runs nicely on a Deans marine "Kyte" motor which i believe is a 380 witha 45mm prop.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2013, 12:11:10 PM »

is that geared down at all?
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2013, 12:21:30 PM »

I use a rubber drive band through equal sized pullies, so there's no gearing worth speaking of.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2013, 12:32:05 PM »

I was planning on using pulleys also.  Thanks for the advice, I will look into a similar motor.
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