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I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« on: February 09, 2013, 09:11:43 PM »

Sorry in advance!! :embarrassed:
 
I have been putting off for ages this question, but need help please. I know nothing about subs, absolutely nothing!
 
I have a Jaws boat, Orca, and you know whats coming......................................................
 
I have dabbled witn various ways or towing a shark, weighted so it falls when the boat stops, and with planes made from rc helicopter blades so it raises when the boat moves, but the untimate will be a fully rc shark, well mini sub with a shark covering. A few months ago someone posted a rc "fin" that was real good, I tried to ask the builder to commission build one for me, but didnt get anywhere. I have bought a number of "toy" subs to convert, they are useless,  so if anybody in the sub world has something they could help me with, a link to fleabay, a friend etc who will make something, or plans etc that I can do, at a modest budget, I dont want this to turn into an expensive project as its just for fun, please let me know. I would really like to get this project completed as the boat is real nice, with sound unit, smoke unit, and has been built to a very realistic finish, so the shark would be the icing on the cake.
 
Your help appreciated!
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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 09:27:59 PM »

I have a part built 'shark fin', all it is is a MMB Sub Sonic with a slot cut in the upper deck and a large styrene fin glued in the slot.


If you're interested, I'll take some photos tomorrow for you...I also have a second hand MMB Sonic hull/deck which you could have, it needs a respray though as it's bright metallic red! You'd need to make a watertight cylinder for it, I also have plans and photos of that, it's dead easy to build.


Let me know if you're interested..




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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 09:29:14 PM »

Meant to add, it's about 24" long.
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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 09:31:58 PM »

Just had a quick look...I have plenty of fittings for it, dive planes, rudders, loads of bits.


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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 09:34:22 PM »

can we see your ORCA with deatails of the plan?
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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 09:49:40 PM »

how about Norber Bruggens mini sub
http://www.modelluboot.de/KITS/Kugelfisch_Ordner/Kugelfisch.html


just the right size
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 09:08:13 AM »

Hi Rich.
 
PM sent so I dont bore other mayhemers, it sound very interesting, but I have a load of questions!
thanks
Paul
That link looks nice, but it looks too expensive,
 
pics of Orca attached, for those with a keen eye, its not the exact correct hull, but close enough, I recued it from a sale some time ago, and spent ages getting it as accurate as possible. Im not a fan of figures on model boats, but this boat was really in need of some, they took ages to craft from star wars figures. It has a bespoke sound unit which Alan Bond made for me, which has a sd card containing tracks from the film, dialogue, music, etc, I can call up which track I want using  a spare tx joystick channel, a smoke unit.and is all "lit up" with  amixture of led and standard bulbs. I was a big fan of the film, and spent an age watching it over and over to get all the small detail, such as the broken front window etc, we now need the star of the film, "Bruce" as he was nicknamed by the cast :embarrassed:   
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 09:23:02 AM »

That boat is a credit to you sir!
All you need now is James Dreyfuss in the shark cage
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 09:32:41 AM »

as you know I dont really do boats like this, scale plodders! but this is great fun, being brought up on 70's films, Jaws was a biggie! Who could not like Quint!
 
we just need the star of the show, Bruce, as he was known by the cast!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 09:37:34 AM »

as you know I dont really do boats like this, scale plodders! but this is great fun, being brought up on 70's films, Jaws was a biggie! Who could not like Quint!
 
we just need the star of the show, Bruce, as he was known by the cast!!


Judging by your other builds I'm betting here is actually some insane brushless motor and huge lipo pack hidden in there just waiting for you to push the throttle full forwards lol :D
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 02:33:53 PM »

ha ha made me laugh! :}
 
2 x 5000 mah lipos so 14.something volts, only because its what I use on everything else, and  a boring brushed motor unfortunately!, but its a nice one :D
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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2013, 12:14:23 PM »

No sign of a pm, Paul?




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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2013, 05:00:24 PM »

That boat is a credit to you sir!
All you need now is James Dreyfuss in the shark cage

A tense moment from the classic movie 'Jaws'. Quint and Brody look on as Hooper (Played by James Dreyfuss) gets a horrid little rope-burn, chips the nail on his pinky, and thinks he'd prefer a smaller boat...

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:42 PM »

Hio Rich, it has left my put box yestersday, but there has been some mail problems, so I will send again, thanks for the prompt!
 
not sure who James Dreyfuss is :} , I remember Richard though! typo me thinks  :-X
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Re: I need a mini sub and know nothing about subs!!
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 11:08:31 AM »

Check your message box, Paul.


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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 10:32:40 PM »

Hi Rich,
 
I just sent yesterday's pm again, something seems to be going wrong with messages sorry! :-)) 
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2013, 11:46:35 AM »

well we nearly got there! unfortunately u33 (Rich) tried his very best to help, but its gone wrong, the sub he had to sell is not salvageable, so if anybody has anything that I can convert with a fairly modest budget to a shark, please let me know! :-))
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 07:04:19 PM »

Couple of questions for you.
What's your budget?
How big do you want it?

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 07:14:20 PM »

Hi, PM sent.
 
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 07:34:47 PM »

No PM, please post answers here.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2013, 10:36:09 PM »

 
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Couple of questions for you.
What's your budget?
How big do you want it?


we nearly had an mmb subsonic, which all up ready to go would have cost approx 60, it needed some work, but bear in mind it does not need to be pretty, just functional.
 
 I have some bits and bobs already. As its a just for fun project I dont want to spend too much, 60 was ok. I spoke to Mark at MMB today to see if he had any p/x etc,(he suggested I will need 3 channel) but has nothing at this time. I think 2 foot long subsonic was a bit big, but its only just the fin thats important I suppose. The boat is about 3 1/2 foot long, to give an idea of scale, I didnt realise that rc submarine technology is quite expensive, the MMB Subsonic appears to be good value, but with everything else required it will probably owe me over 150 which is too much, hence on the scrounge for 2nd hand, damaged, forgotton projects etc :-) I would consider a commission build iof anybody has somethimng that can be converted
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 03:02:24 PM »

That's a big ask, 60 just not going to do it. WTC alone would cost more. I suggest the towed shark is the best and cheapest way forward.

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 05:30:37 PM »

A towed shark might be the way to go, your towing cable could be wires that go to servos embedded into your shark?
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 05:57:02 PM »

Clever, a four core cable could operate two servos in the model, with your power carried by the Orca. Build it round a small cheap fizzy drink bottle ( more likely two, cut in half and taped back together ) with fins as needed. All you would need to work on is watertight glands through an unfriendly material....and making it look more like a Great White than a Cola bottle of course :-)
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