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River class frigate
« on: February 09, 2013, 08:32:44 pm »

Photos of the latest model
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 08:45:50 pm »

Needed a new model to keep me occupied over the Christmas holidays.  After discarding several ideas, one based on this austere class of WW2 warships looked ideal.  The slim hull did however mean that top weight had to be minimised.
Using a scale of 1/144 gave me a model length of 25" (635mm) with a weight of just under 2lb (0.9kg).  The hull was built from balsa sheet, balsa and card used for the superstructure and the small details came from the usual "junk" found lying around in my workshop.
Power was a single RE385 motor and a battery made up from four high capacity "AA" cells.  Current measurements suggest that it could run at top speed for over three hours!
Ballasting trials showed that the model was tender but placing thin lead sheet as low as possible inside the hull ensured that the model always knew which way was "up".  Sailing trials confirmed it was stable, sudden application of large rudder angles would cause it to heel but it was never in any danger.  Top speed is about 3 ft/sec (0.9 m/s) which is a good dynamic match with the fullsize vessels.
Plans now with the Model Boats editor and I can think about the next model.  But, my wife says not until a few jobs have been done around the house!!!!
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 08:51:40 pm »

Thats a nice ship!  :-))
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 11:12:26 am »

As soon as I saw the picture I just knew it was a 'Glynn Guest'!
Looks nice.
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 11:32:42 am »

A great beginers or simple model.

Any builders wanting to detail it should look at 1:128 scale fittings or etch for it. The difference between 1:144 and 1:128 on small items is negligible and fittings for 1:144 are rare. One needs to look at 'N' scale model trains for any 'off the shelf fittings'.

edit: Glynn, I take it the number 'K126' was something you had in the spares box as the real K126 was HMS Burdock, a flower class corvette.   :D
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 11:54:56 am »

Pondweed,
      I beg to differ, a beginner would be likely to build heavy and cover the model with metal/resin fittings thus, leading to stability problems.  Much better to make your own from low density scrap materials, more satisfying and cheaper too!
Anyone determined to cover this design with commercial fittings would be best advised to follow the suggestion in the construction article and scale the plans up.
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 12:53:01 pm »

Meant to add this as #4 last night, another superb looking "Hook" from GG.
 
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 01:03:44 pm »

Pondweed,
      I beg to differ,

Well that's why the world is such an interesting place, we all have a different take on things.

You must be exagerating when you say the design can't take a few resin fittings and some etch? But you're as well to warn people before they build it.
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 01:14:04 pm »

Funny how "The designer" seems to get the finished product wrong. Post #1 laid all the parameters out a looked to cover all the bases. Just shows how wrong we can be.  :embarrassed:
 
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 01:51:36 pm »

Is it me? I simply suggested a way for someone to 'improve' his model.

If a 'beginner' is capable of being 'at fault' by building his model 'too heavy', well I'd suggest the fault lies elsewhere and the model should be aimed at 'advanced' modellers.

The same can be said if it can't take some etched and a few resin fittings.


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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 01:57:23 pm »

I know it seems that a few resin fittings and etch brass seems to be a reasonable way to enhance the basic build and I understand what you mean pondweed by making this suggestion. However it is actually surprising just how much top weight is added by even a few resin fittings.  At this size of build, grams on top are critical and even experienced modellers can ill judge this. I think Glyn's experience in his designs and builds to date are such that its reasonable to say he isnt exaggerating.  His sugestion of scaling up would then cover any issues over excess weight caused by extra fittings from commercial sources.   
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 04:12:48 pm »

Sorry for the acerbic (Moi?) reply Pondweed but one of the problems in getting someone to actually hack wood by today's generation given the lack of manual skill teachings is easily cultivated to make "Not a bad fist" from Glynn's designs. Ain't enough detailing to be a pain but ample to fullfill a beginners desire to say "I built it" in a reasonable time, cos as we know, some don't have the concentration and attention span of - - - - -
 
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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 04:16:55 pm »

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Don't cast aspersions on moi koi

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Re: River class frigate
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2013, 09:30:25 am »

Another nice project for a beginner, or a design ripe for scaling up...just a bit ok2
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