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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2011, 08:57:29 AM »

A few pics of my rerigged Vicky
8mm Cf mast
6mm Cf booms
Wind Power Sails
Fishing trace wire stays (no spreaders two stays per side + backstay)
De rigeur 6" rule sail servo arm
Sheet adjusters brought through to cockpit

She sails so much better with the lightweight rig and decent sails

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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2011, 07:12:07 PM »

Ned, Thats what I have got to do with my Victoria...

What sort of CF tube did you use? Most of the modded ones... I have seen seem to use Skyshark tubes..but their owner are very coy about where they got their tube from..
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« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2011, 07:07:13 AM »

Dekan
Just the stock tube my model shop had.
I was not after warp speed as we only sail for relaxation
at our club.
I have a manic marblehead for windy windy days.
I am going to change the bowsies for the smallest rigging
screws I can get (4BA I think) just for ease of rigging and
cosmetic reasons.

All in all I think I have got it sailing the way I want it picking out
the best mods from the different forums.
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« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2011, 06:19:48 PM »

Thanks Ned, you can get spiral wound 8mm CF tube from several sources now. How much of the original rigging hardware did you use? The kicker doesn't look stock..
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« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2011, 06:26:12 PM »

My first Vic I did all the mods from the OMSA site which included the arrow shaft mast and booms. My second build for my wife I bought their cf mast which is tapered spiral wrapped CF with a simple brass ferrule in the middle. I'm pretty sure it is a short fishing rod blank that should be easy to DIY.
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« Reply #80 on: April 27, 2011, 07:16:05 AM »

The kicker is just a bit of bent brass rod. I have two sizes which I use decided by the wind strength.
The base of the mast is original as is the gooseneck.
A 1 metre 8mm tube plus the required length of the mast base works a treat
The C/F tube slots into the mast base and is secured with a couple of pop rivets.

As I said earlier, I just wanted a boat I could sail for enjoyment in most winds.

At our club we have no out and out racers in fact on Sunday 8 Yachts no two the same plus a couple of lasers
so there is no-one looking down their noses at my interpretation of a model yacht.

It works for me and that's all I ask  :-)) :-))

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« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2011, 04:06:50 PM »

The kicker is just a bit of bent brass rod. I have two sizes which I use decided by the wind strength.
The base of the mast is original as is the gooseneck.
A 1 metre 8mm tube plus the required length of the mast base works a treat
The C/F tube slots into the mast base and is secured with a couple of pop rivets.

As I said earlier, I just wanted a boat I could sail for enjoyment in most winds.

At our club we have no out and out racers in fact on Sunday 8 Yachts no two the same plus a couple of lasers
so there is no-one looking down their noses at my interpretation of a model yacht.

It works for me and that's all I ask  :-)) :-))





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It sounds like our sailing as well no organized racing and a mixed bag of boats. Our winter is long and I enjoy the building and I always seem to get carried away.
Mine are probably not tuned worth a darn but they have lots of fancy bits. :-))
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« Reply #82 on: April 29, 2011, 03:19:58 PM »

I think the Victoria is a great yacht... thats why I think it's worth replacing the mast and rigging. as this is it's weak spot IMO
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« Reply #83 on: April 30, 2011, 01:25:47 AM »

I think the Victoria is a great yacht... thats why I think it's worth replacing the mast and rigging. as this is it's weak spot IMO

Weak is perhaps not the best choice of words, at is implies that something is wrong with the rigging.
The rigging is fine and very robust. Perhaps saying that it is the thing that needs upgrading most, is more appropriate.
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« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2011, 01:58:16 PM »

Hello everyone. I am a 69 year old beginner to rc sail, but I had a lot of dinghy sailing experience when younger. This is my first big post so if you have problems with it please tell me. My scale sail project is taking too long and I was desperate for a sail this summer, so after reading your posts I bought a Victoria. I have had a lot of pleasure from sailing it and I would like to thank you all for helping me to make this choice. I have made some modifications which you may find interesting. I live in the sticks, the nearest model shop is 40 mins drive and the nearest club is 90 mins drive but I have a lathe and a reasonable workshop. There may be commercially available parts for some of the things I have done. If anyone is interested I can post more info on dimensions and how to do it. Our local campsite has given me permission to sail on their fishing lake which covers about 5 acres.
1  I made the radio box easily removeable, using some 8mm sq spruce and some home made bolts (pics 1,2,3). This also sets the box higher, clear of any water that may get in and also brings the servo outputs up to the same level as the sheet and tiller ports to avoid friction. The ends of the support beams are well spaced to reduce the forces imposed by the servo outputs.
2  Instead of the king post arrangement proposed on the OMSA website to resist the downthrust of the mast, I machined some brass stepped sleeves to fit on the ends of the modified keel mounting tube (pic1). When I had done it I thought an easier way would be to fit a 7mm ID tube (Albion Alloys) cut to length over the standard keel mounting tube.
3  The standard mast joiner is too flexible, and the resulting kink in the mast affected the set of the mainsail, so I made a stainless steel one drilled to reduce weight.
4   I found the sheeting arrangement through the lever arm and the cockpit rope bushing in the stern hatch cover gave too much friction, the sails would not pull out in light winds, and I think this may be the cause of short servo and battery life. I made a servo arm with a sheave as shown in pic 4 and a block for the stern hatch cover as shown in pic 5. I am using 2000mAh NiMH batteries which have not died on me but the max duration I have risked so far is 6 hours before recharge. The Futaba S3010 servo is still ok after about 40 hours of use, I probably shouldn't have said that.
The weather is perfect so I am off to the lake. All the best   Brian









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« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2011, 12:46:23 AM »

G'day Brian,you've made some really good mods. to the viccy, I especially like youre  sheeting arrangement and will modify mine accordingly :-))  I built my viccy as per OMSA and used Jim Anderson's go fast kit,that lightened the boat quite a bit.If youre using the standard sails,get the long bow yachts sails, the boats performance really improves with much  better acceleration after tacking ok2
btw, I'm also 69 years old but only 29years old between the ears :-)
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« Reply #86 on: September 08, 2011, 08:11:41 AM »

Hello Col
Thanks for your comments. I didn't find the OMSA website until after I had finished my Viccy, so with hindsight I may have done a few things differently. I take your point about the sails. Have a good day.  Brian
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« Reply #87 on: July 17, 2013, 07:45:15 PM »

Does anyone know what the narrow strips are for in the kit manual doesn't show where they go.?
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« Reply #88 on: July 18, 2013, 02:04:47 AM »

A picture would help, maybe with something to show scale like a pen or ruler.
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« Reply #89 on: July 18, 2013, 08:57:06 AM »

If they are very thin plastic strips they may be
Sail battens or stiffeners.
I will have a look at my instructions when I get
home

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« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2013, 09:26:24 AM »

Page 10 Fig 20 of the manual shows three pvc strips for sail battens.
Would these be the strips?


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« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2013, 08:10:53 PM »

Page 10 Fig 20 of the manual shows three pvc strips for sail battens.
Would these be the strips?


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No wonder ive struggled when pages are missing out of the manual, when you mentioned where they go i found a post" with pic of the sail & could just make out where they go, Thanks
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« Reply #92 on: July 20, 2013, 09:36:12 AM »

Victoria instruction manual available for download here:-

http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/images/0-TTRB1000_manual.pdf

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« Reply #93 on: July 20, 2013, 02:10:37 PM »

Victoria instruction manual available for download here:-

http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/images/0-TTRB1000_manual.pdf

Mike
Thanks, downloaded & saved, its the two middle pages that are missing from the manual that came with the boat.
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« Reply #94 on: July 20, 2013, 03:07:12 PM »

There is also an excellent step by step build log here    http://www.okanaganmodelsailboat.org/Index1.html
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« Reply #95 on: July 20, 2013, 05:36:53 PM »

Having finally tired of struggling to get water out of the hull after an adventurous session, I have just fitted a drain hatch, courtesy of a carton of fruit juice.
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« Reply #96 on: July 20, 2013, 06:22:40 PM »

 {-) {-) {-)  Like it! they say necessesity is the mother of invention. O0
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« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2013, 06:35:52 PM »

I just drilled a hole in the transom and made a plug from a pop rivet with a bit of electrical
Wire insulation to fit.
I use the same only larger on my Marblehead.
No probs keeping a couple of spares  for the lost ones.

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« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2013, 07:39:32 PM »

Having finally tired of struggling to get water out of the hull after an adventurous session, I have just fitted a drain hatch, courtesy of a carton of fruit juice.

 Now you'll have to rename her ''Juicy Lucy''
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« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2013, 09:06:11 PM »

Having finally tired of struggling to get water out of the hull after an adventurous session, I have just fitted a drain hatch, courtesy of a carton of fruit juice.
Got to go some to get water in the hull...? I had water over my deck few times with the speed boats passing but never a drop of water.
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