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Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« on: May 29, 2007, 08:41:38 AM »

Has anyone built the Italeri MTB that came out last year? On impulse I have bought one going cheap(ish) and want to covert it to radio, which SHOULD be straight forward but yer neva know...Would like to se what motors someone else has used - I've picked up some high revving ex-scalextric car models but not sure if they can deliver the power. Scale of the boat is 1/35th which is handy for 'crew'!!
Jim
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 09:00:27 AM »


Scalextric motors (mabuchi 's' cans) aren't that torquey, and need 15v to work well..... 15+ years of competitive slot racing/build/prep experience.....

Mini-Z motors on the other hand, work very nicely at 6 - 7 volts :)

Same can, different wind and slightly different brushgear.

-Rob

ps Build log ongoing here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=688351
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 12:06:08 PM »

Many, many thanks Rob. Any info' on where to get the mini-z motors you mention? The kit itself should build into quite a good model - I've found a colour scheme in a book called "S-boote" that shows one in zebra stripe dazzle effect - bit ambtious but I've got the time and in no rush....just as well probably!
Cheer's
Jim
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 02:01:19 PM »


All I can find quickly...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kyosho-Mini-Z-Racer-MZW8V-X-Speed-Motor-V-Modified_W0QQitemZ160121145829QQihZ006QQcategoryZ140974QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

-Rob

ps I'm still not convinced of the longevity of a hardworked mabuchi 's' can tho'....
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 05:19:23 PM »

Have a look at the ACTion website to see if they can supply you motors and ESC's/mixer all in one go. At least you know they are all compatable.

http://www.action-electronics.co.uk
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 08:03:29 PM »

in the process of doing it myself. using a couple of MFA 380. no idea how they will perform.
been following the build on this link
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/it/build_it_5602.shtml
should give a good idea on what it should look like
have fun
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 08:26:43 PM »


Have a look at John's site.

www.pt-boat.com

Regards

Simon
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 10:24:29 PM »

hello boaters,i have built and completed this kit and semi succesfully sailed her at beale park on the 6th may
here are some specs;-
  2 x jp power 480 moters(very overkill as i found out)
  2 x graupner 2mm shafts
  2 x propshop props (1011/3)  great looking,not exactly right.
  m/tronics speed controller x1(no mixer or independent control)
   
    one thing i have done and would strongly recomend is to enlarge the rudders as the kiit ones are tiny, i use a half size servo(not micro) operating all three servos
    try to keep the weight down as my boat sits just below water line. i inserted brass tube into the original p brackets an cut the shafts to suit
      i said semi succesfully, on 6 cell ni cads the performance is very fast ,to fast even with 3 large rudders turning is wide, the main problem was water getting in it nkilled two servos !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 i have photos, i am having trouble posting them will keep trying!!!!
give it a go it is an awsome kit,if i can help with any probs i will try
good luck penfold
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 07:40:51 PM »

A big thankyou and very much appreciated all the feedback on this question - it has helped immensely. Will post some photo's and info WHEN I start the build...winter is gonna be a long one!
Cheers,
Jim
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 01:38:49 PM »

I have finished RC model from Italeri kit. It is excellent boat. Best thing you can do, replace hull from kit by hull from fiberglass. I purchased one, it was 150 grams heavy, so you saving weight of motors and Lipol battery. Model is fast and running EXCELLENT
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 02:45:23 PM »

Peter,

Can one purchase a fiberglass hull for this kit from you as well ? !  ;D

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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 02:56:09 PM »

If its so good where are all these photos everyones going to post ?  :-\
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 05:09:28 PM »

Model Slipway  I do not selling or making fiberglass hulls. I get it from your ex friend.You are telling about him, he is making copy of your hulls. He is not.But I do not thing so, he will sell hull to you. Quality is better as excellent
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 05:11:41 PM »

I was ready to post pictures here, but they are to big, so I have make new set of pictures and I will post them here ASAP
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 07:09:03 PM »


Penfold,

If the motors are a bit of overkill what would you recommend?

I have one awaiting start, the pictures in model boats looked a bit slow and i think weight will be an issue?

Thanks

Simon
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2008, 07:17:06 PM »

Motors are  in size Mabuchi 280 OK with power. 25 mm propellers and LiPol Battery. If you will use plastic hull, you will have problem with weight
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 06:29:16 PM »

I have in my PT boat 3 Mabuchi 280 too. It is great power.I love this model
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2008, 06:31:36 PM »

I used for this model also fiberglass hull, original from kit is to heavy. Fiberglass hull is half one third of original hull weight
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 06:32:30 PM »

Motors installation
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 06:34:13 PM »

front view
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2008, 04:25:39 PM »

Hull openings
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2008, 04:28:05 PM »

Hull opening
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2008, 08:50:11 PM »

Hi Hansen
             Nice model, interesting colour scheme you have there. I can't say I have seen it before, where did you get your info from?? or is it your own thing? If it is the latter nice one.

Regards Rob.

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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 03:17:33 PM »

I have this paint scheme from internet.Hopefully next week I will send here more pictures from action, ice is not anymore on my lake
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Re: Italeri ; ELCO 80' Torpedo boat PT596
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2008, 01:31:17 PM »

Beauty Hansen, and lucky you to have ice out already, got another solid month to go here in Minnesota.  I'd like to know about any other color schemes used for these boats, for some reason I just don't want to paint it green, anyone know?  Where did you get all the sailors?

I also have been building this model, its been going slower (but I've got a month).  I used 3 (cheap) 380's with 1:2 belt drive, and the kits propellers, did oversize the rudders too.  My main issue maybe weight.  (I also put mini airpump on to blow bubbles (exhaust) out the mufflers  {-))

I used 1/16" ss shafts with brass tube bearing set in styrene.  The front bearings got too hot and melted the styrene (too much tension on the belts etc), so I put a flange on the tube and refixed them it should be okay, however I may take them off one more time and get some small ball bearings in the front (belt tension is always going to be there).  I think it's a quality kit, hope Italeri does more of this.  Cap

PS, not necessarily recommeded method for drive system, I'm an experimenter, gearing up electric motors not considered efficient, but I assumed with the small propellers the motors could take it  ::)





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