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Decal Making
« on: May 29, 2007, 03:52:25 PM »

Hi Maties
I asked this in other forums without total success.Hopefully haven't asked here and repeated myself (old fart u c)

I am looking for a decal making set that does supply all the necessary materials and has lots of information on "how to do". after hours on Goggle searches I've only managed small snippits of confusing information.That and a good help from Greg on SM forum but the items he uses is stateside and they won't export.
Any info appreciated

I have a Dell 1100 with a Epson 3200 ink jet printer and JASC Paint Shop Pro 7 to try and do the job.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 04:07:35 PM »

Try http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/clear%20water-slip%20decals.htm

Haven't used them ,supposed to be quite good.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 05:29:51 PM »

Hobbies of Dereham sell decal sheets to print your own, either clear or white.

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 06:59:33 PM »

I have used waterslip paper from crafty comp paper- its ok, just be sure to follow the instructions and allow the ink to dry before coating etc

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 09:56:56 AM »

Craftycom recommend a coat of varnish for bubble/ink jet printed decals.

For laser jet there is no need to varnish befor puttin in water.

I have used inkjet. Colour on clear background.
Light colours (red/orange/yelloe) are very thin and unless they are put on a very light background the don't show up well.

I tried yellow and gold writing and used on a blue hull. Very disapointing.

Also note that there is different paper for inkjest and laser jet, and white and clear decal paper.


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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 11:33:04 AM »

A few years ago I got a "SUPER CAL" kit for inkjet from a trader at a show.  Contained paper and aerosol sealer.  Following the instructions worked well for dark colours.
For printing pale colours or white, I needed to produce a decal with the background to match the area, and paint the area where the decal was going white.  A black background was easy - matching colours less so.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 11:32:31 AM »

If you have a colour laser printer, you dont need waterslide paper. Laser toner is thermo plastic. You can make logos for t-shirts that just iron on, but for hard surfaces, you need to wash the paper away.
Suggest trying it buy printing at the very best qualiy you can (more toner=denser print= thicker print).
Very much a suck it and see process, but worth a try.
(helpfull hint, if using the works colour laser, make sure the boss is not around ::) )

There is also a product that "dissolves" paper, so you can just print out, or use a picture from a glossy magasine, removes just about all the paper until just the ink and glaze is left. Stick on and varnish job done.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 11:58:11 AM »

Hi Hagar
Do you reverse the print, fix down, then wash the paper away ?
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 01:56:48 PM »

You can do, GENTAL heat to the bit you want to stick it on will often work. Think mini iron on transfers.
probably best for names and whole words as th letters will all line up.

The other way is to dissolve the paper and you end up with the letters which can then be placed on the item. but this gives loose letters. and is a pain in the bum.

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 03:13:32 PM »

I have access to a laser printer,what do I need and to do to be able to put photos on T shirts ?.
In simple terms please.

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 04:19:40 PM »

You need a pack of tee shirt printing paper (PC World sells it).

Print the photograph in reverse (flipped using your image editing software) on the paper and then iron the image on to the tee shirt.

This works reasonably well, but isn't all that permanent in my experience - repeated washing of the tee shirt tends to peel the image off.  Quite good for a few washes though.

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2008, 07:24:19 PM »

I use clear decal paper for laser printers, and Microscale  Liquid decal film.

Just work up your graphics on the computer, then print to photographic paper.
Take the print out down to the local copiers and run the decal paper through the
bypass tray.  Coat the graphic with the  liquid decal film, let dry, trim and apply.

I buy the decal paper from a specialty supplier, but Micromark carries a couple kits..
Just search decal, you should come up with a few options.
http://www.micromark.com/

Micromark also offers decal paper for inkjet printers, and a clear laquer spray fixitive to prevent
them from running when dunked in water... Not sure who might be your regional supplier.

Here is a decal, on a 60mm square helipad, from a laser printer,
You can just make out the right edge of the ring... The "H" was applied separately.
You can make out a large red decal on the side of the building and on the crane in
the distance, and a blurred white marking on the crane boom, but I can't reveal
those till the model is presented next Saturday.

The 1mm high white draught markings were done on a specialized ALPS printer.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2008, 08:11:14 PM »

That looks superb Umi

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 03:31:57 AM »

Umi

Is that white ink that has been used on the numbers??

As white is a problem for normal decal paper, obviosluy.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 03:50:01 AM »

Umi

Is that white ink that has been used on the numbers??

As white is a problem for normal decal paper, obviosluy.

ALPS printers are an old style tape cartridge printer, they can print text or images, and then
overprint them in layers to produce color images, metalic, or white  printouts.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2008, 04:14:29 AM »

Thanks for that information Umi.



Now a question for the wider Mayhem world.

Which companies do you you know in your country that have ALPS printers who can supply modelers?
Perhaps we can draw up a list.

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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2008, 12:56:38 PM »

I have a feeling that ALPS printers are, for us ordinary mortals, a thing of the past.  Having said that, dot matrix printers are still findable.  If there was a way of producing or getting a white "carbon paper", or even better, a white ribbon, an impact printer could produce white decals.
One problem with using inkjet based decals is fading.  It probably depends on the ink, but I have some where the colour has definitely faded, mostly the red component.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2008, 01:10:45 PM »

Ive made decasl using my home all in one printer using thin photo paper simply print your design then spray over the top with acrylic laquer leav to dry then cut out and stick on using pva glue,mine have lasted a yr so far with no problems.
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Re: Decal Making
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2009, 02:46:10 PM »

Its been a little time since i put this up. Was talking to my friend Bluebird about decals and he said something about getting them off the net (photos) and making them up himself.

I've had a go at the Meteor badge and its come up fine just a little colour enhancement and a better trimming.

It looks good to me.
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