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Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« on: June 09, 2013, 11:19:17 AM »

I began this one a few weeks ago.      The name will be disclosed when it is complete, but if anyone guesses correctly, I will confirm it! :-)
The hull is 9 1/2 inches long on the waterline.     The ship is to be shown under full sail in a moderate sea.    All the masts, spars and rigging (including ratlines) are metal - brass tube and rod, copper rod, silver steel rod, with copper wire rigging.    The sails are airmail paper onto which I have printed the seams on both sides using the computer.    I printed them in light grey rather than black, so they are not too prominent.    I have just completed the fore-and-aft sails and standing rigging, and am about to start fitting and rigging the 21 square sails!
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 04:37:12 PM »


Just beautiful Bob!   :-)
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 07:19:14 PM »

Thanks Martin,
Just set and partially rigged the lowest three square sails today!     Can't  remember when I made on that attracted so little interest as this one :((
So you have perked me up quite a lot! :-))
More pics tomoroow!
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 09:39:30 PM »

another masterpiece
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 02:54:24 AM »

Looking very nice!!
Takes a long time to do all those sails..... must be tricky in this smaller scale...
 
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 04:01:48 AM »

Bob, you truly are the master.  Awesome work!
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 06:50:48 AM »

Thanks for replies.     It takes about 50 minutes to make, set & rig each of the large lower sails.   As I move upwards, the individual rigging of the square sails gets easier.    So, working on three per day, the square sails would take a week.    But the 6 t'gallants, 3 royals & 3 skysails only take about 20 minutes each!
I have always found it much easier to work on small scales.    I don't have any knots to deal with as the rigging is mainly glued on.   The only exception are the ratlines that were soldered on to the shrouds before they are fitted to the model.     The sails and rigging are easy enough - it is the hull and deck fittings that are the most complicated part of the build!
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 07:43:05 AM »

   Can't  remember when I made on that attracted so little interest as this one :((
So you have perked me up quite a lot! :-))

Fairs fair Bob, it had only been 8 hours.  ok2


I am looking forward to seeing more. :-))
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 08:55:05 AM »

I don't mean here! :-)        When I began the build about 8 weeks ago, I put it on two other model ship forums, where it has been practically ignored.      I have always had a good response here, but haven't posted very often of late, mainly because there isn't a definate section to put them in i.e. scratchbuilt merchant ships, sail & steam. 
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 09:26:33 AM »

Not really my style of boat but this is absolutely stunning!!!!    :-))
Glad you added the pen in the picís as it makes one appreciate the scale and detail even more. Donít be shy with the pictures.
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 03:24:42 PM »

Bob,  This level of scale detail is something that I find difficult to ignor. What kind of magnification do you use, what thread sizes and could you show us the tools you have that you probably made custom?  In fact, if you don't mind, could you send us a pic of your work station/shop?  I feel like I'm all thumbs at the 1:96 scale that I work with.  Just amazes me what you do.  Tks for sharing with us. Dennis
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 03:42:58 PM »

Dennis
 I donít use any other magnification than reading glasses!     There is nothing in the models smaller than a full stop, and I can see them OK when reading!        I am now aged 69, but feel that building miniatures for so long has kept my vision up to a reasonable level for that age!
I donít use thread at all.   The rigging is all fine copper wire.   No knots to mess about with, most of it I just glue on.      No special work table, just an old desk that is normally in a state of chaos.    No special tools, but have a Unimat lathe, a drill press and a hobby bandsaw.
Following pictures will illustrate.      The German five-masted full rigged ship Preussen during construction.     The Preussen complete and another of the model photographed from a low angle with a photograph of the sea superimposed over the lower part.
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 04:28:49 PM »

Well Bob, what you do is amazing work and sure do enjoy seeing it.  I'll try to attach a couple of pics of the "Flying Cloud" that I did a number of years ago at 1/8" scale.  Took me 3yrs.  I sold it to a chap in back East.  Used lots of chain at 40 links/inch.. about drove me to drink.


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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 05:22:54 PM »

That is a very fine model of Flying Cloud!      I could never face building one that scale though - too much like hard work :((     I once built a 32'=1" model of her though!       Mine take about 60 or 70 hours, all timed on a stopwatch, usually spread out over 6 to 8 weeks.
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 The foresail, mainsail and croíjack have now been set & rigged.   I have also set, but not yet rigged, the fore lower topsail.
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 07:03:46 PM »

Nice Bob.... keep um comin.


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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 04:30:15 PM »

The lower and upper topsails have now been set and rigged.    The remainder, lower & upper t'gallants, royals and skysails have much less complex rigging with only single braces on each size and no running blocks, so things should proceed a lot faster now!
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2013, 11:25:32 PM »

Nice Bob, how do you make your sails set as if wind was on the beam...?
 
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 06:35:18 AM »

Dennis,
It took me years to figure that one out.    If I cut the sails to the correct shape, they simply would not set correctly.    Eventually, I realised that when a square sail was wind-filled, it was actually pulled out of shape and distorted beyond its normal shape.     The lower square sails are the biggest problem.      Here is a specailly cut sail as distorted by the wind.    I mould them round an ostrich egg whilst wet to get the wind filled shape.   
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Re: Three skysail yard 4-masted barque 32'=1"
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2013, 07:09:07 AM »

Almost complete now!    The three lower t'gallants have been set & rigged, leaving only the upper t'gallants, royals & skysails to set & rig.    Only hours from completion!
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 02:59:19 PM »

Tks Bob, truly awesome.  You da man!
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 03:21:16 PM »


Very impressive Bob.  Any clues as to the name of her ?


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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 05:44:08 PM »

It is almost complete now.   I have been beavering away today setting & rigging the upper t'gallants and royals.     I had hoped to complete today, but by 1700 hrs, I was quite fed up with the whole show :((       I will set & rig the three skysails tomorow.     As it is within a couple of hours of completion, I will say that it is the British four-masted barque Lord Ripon.    Shown here anchored in an Australian port with sails stowed:
http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/edwardes/13/PRG1373_13_19.jpg
Tomorrow, my wife will make the sea
that has already been made.     Tomorrow, I will return to completing the display case and carrying case.
Bob
PS.   I don't know why the link to the picture is microscopic, but it does work! :-)


Well worth it .................

http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/edwardes/13/PRG1373_13_19.jpg


 
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 05:56:56 PM »

The model itself is now complete.    At this moment, my wife is in the other room painting the sea.    There is a bit of work left to do on the display case, but not much.    Depending on whether the paint dries quickly, the model may be fitted into the sea sometime tomorow.    None of the sails are flat!   I dislike flat sails and flags!     In order to make them bulge, I mold each one round an ostrich egg whilst still wet and that gives them a good wind-filled shape.     The sail edges are lined with fine copper wire to improve the crispness!
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 10:30:12 PM »

amazing again
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 11:04:55 PM »

Awesome Bob..... you just seem to be able to whip these little gems out.  As I said, my last clipper took me 3 years.  I must ask if I may... do you keep these as a collection or sell them?  I would love to see a picture of all of them if you have a display at home?
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