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Name This Ship
« on: June 30, 2013, 08:47:56 am »

Found a source of photos that are not already ubiquitous on the Internet. Name this ship:




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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2013, 10:33:42 am »

Found a source of photos that are not already ubiquitous on the Internet. Name this ship:


Oh Cool! I've never named a ship before...   ...how about Stan?!
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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2013, 10:38:18 am »

How about, Uss Iowa BB4?
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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2013, 10:46:51 am »

Under the Brooklyn Bridge? Maybe?
I bet someone knows the date  :}

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013, 03:09:16 pm »

Well, obviously that one was too easy for all you battleship experts. Adross got it right - it is, of course, the USS Stanislavsky, passing under the Brooklyn Bridge.  ok2

Bonus question: Name the year and month the shot was taken.
2nd bonus question: Name the company the photographer was working for.


How about this one, same questions:





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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2013, 05:43:32 pm »

Well, obviously that one was too easy for all you battleship experts. Adross got it right - it is, of course, the USS Stanislavsky, passing under the Brooklyn Bridge.  ok2

Excellent! Can we call this one Gordon?...

Seriously though, I'd found a picture of Iowa about an hour before you posted your question, but wasn't going to spoil the 'fun' straight away. However, I'll add my image (to compliment yours) for reference purposes.

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2013, 11:31:54 pm »

Bonus question: Name the year and month the shot was taken.
After the Battle of Santiago, Iowa left Cuban waters for New York, arriving 20 August 1898 and departed 12 October 1898. My guess is October because she isn't under tow.

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 12:59:13 am »

I think you're right about the date: sometime after repairs had been completed. Here's a photo of Iowa in NY harbor on August 20th, 1898:



The date for my "name the ship" photo is not known, except that the photo was in a catalog of prints in 1901.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 03:31:59 am »

'fraid I can't help with the date, although I might be able to point you in a direction to identify the catalogue...

I've just found several more  pictures of 'Iowa' (49 actually), at the Library of Congress website - http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/det1994013756/PP/

Details for the 'Brooklyn Bridge' image are:

Title: U.S.S. Iowa
Related Names:    Detroit Publishing Co. , publisher
Date Created/Published: [between 1897 and 1901]
Medium: 1 negative : glass ; 8 x 10 in.
Reproduction Number: LC-D4-20433 (b&w glass neg.)
Call Number: LC-D4-20433 <P&P> [P&P]
Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA
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  • Date based on Detroit, Catalogue J (1901).
  • Brooklyn Bridge in background.
  • Detroit Publishing Co. no. 020433.
  • Gift; State Historical Society of Colorado; 1949.



Slightly off topic, but not by much, what happened to Brooklyn Bridge? Was it repaired or demolished?
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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 05:10:27 am »

adross, good job tracking the source down! I just recently discovered the Library of Congress collection myself. That is, indeed, where I got the photo of USS Stanislavsky.  :D

So, what about the second photo?

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 05:24:25 am »

Oh, sorry, forgot: The Brooklyn Bridge is alive and well.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 09:19:04 am »

Oh, sorry, forgot: The Brooklyn Bridge is alive and well.

Rob

So they fixed after that terrible incident in 1998 then?...  The Brooklyn Bridge Disaster

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2013, 10:13:04 pm »

Oh, that! They made that lizard clean up his act, and after a shave and a good haircut and some clean clothes, he got a good-paying job!



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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2013, 11:38:56 pm »

Ship No.2 identified! Plus all additional info, including the date.

I didn't knowany of it beforehand, but a systematic GoogleImage search, begining with 'Battleship BB 20'...   'Battleship BB 21'...  'Battleship BB22'... and so on, until I got to a vessel with twin anchors, twin funnels and twin cage masts...       ...looky here for the answer; http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/35a.htm

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 03:41:07 pm »

Nice bit of sleuthing! Of course, Texas had a sister ship, also with twin anchors (subsequently removed from both ships). Did you find her, then reject her as being the wrong one?




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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2013, 06:53:56 pm »

Nice bit of sleuthing! Of course, Texas had a sister ship, also with twin anchors (subsequently removed from both ships). Did you find her, then reject her as being the wrong one?

No, it was slightly easier than that - When I found the image at the link added previously (http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/35a.htm), there was also an image of both ships including a similar explanation to your own, i.e. -

"Texas (BB-35) on 24 March 1914 with an unknown battleship moored alongside and the cage masts of another looming over the foreground.
The “turtle-back” style of turret is particular to the New York, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania classes and of these only the New York class have 2 funnels. Ergo if Texas is in the foreground it must be New York (BB-34) on the other side. In pre-war photos the easy telltale for distinguishing between these two sisters is the searchlights mounted on the masts; Texas carries them one above the other and New York carries them on a single level. This arrangement changes on Texas immediately after the war."


I suspect the crew of number two turret weren't too fond of the Paparazzi either!

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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2013, 07:52:15 pm »

I find this discussion very entertaining! If, like me, you like to do research on ships anyway, doing these little "trivia treasure hunts" adds a little spice to the game. I find that it's sometimes refreshing to collaborate, just for fun. I have a friend who I sometimes share workshop space with, just hanging out together, each of us working on his own battleship model. So much of what we do is done in solitude, and I also relish that, as well, but collaboration can really bump it up a notch, if you follow me.

On the Texas: I had the good fortune of visiting the ship in 2008, and pretty much had the run of the ship. It was just after hurricane season, and the museum/gift shop was closed, due to flooding. I think I saw 3 people on the ship, the entire day I spent on her - one of whom was the park ranger. As I'm an avid photographer, and as he was bored, we teamed up for a complete photographic tour of the ship. I posted some of the photos on my personal website, and on threads in Model Boat Mayhem.

On my site: http://www.robwood.net/portfolio-uss-tx.php

On Mayhem:

General: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14038.msg134423.html#msg134423

Secondary armament and AA mounts: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14040.msg134425.html#msg134425

Main armament: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14063.msg134615.html#msg134615

More shots of mains and secondaries: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14039.msg134424.html#msg134424

Hope you enjoy the pics!

Rob

 
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Re: Name This Ship
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2013, 07:28:36 am »

I would like name Water Angel.
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