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tugboattam

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27mhz to 2.4ghz
« on: July 03, 2013, 05:11:59 pm »

Hi all, I've taken the plunge and Im changing to 2.4ghz, can any of you guys tell me if the reciever can be run from the main battery like the 27mhz BEC system or does it need to have a seperate battery ? 
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 05:27:33 pm »

Depends on the make {-)  Most will accept 6 volts without a BEC.


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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 05:36:16 pm »

no problem power your new reciever just like you old one I have planet and futaba on 2,4ghz both recievers will run from main battery with bec system
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 10:00:07 pm »

If the present setup is running on a supply from the BEC in the ESC, the new one will as well.  If relying on the lucky draw that is a 27MHz RX that claims to have a BEC, I wouldn't chance it.
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 08:02:44 pm »

Hi all,  Got the 2.4ghz on saturday morning, the ariel on the reciever is only 3"  /  75mm long !! is that all it needs ?
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 08:19:39 pm »


Yes indeed.

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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 09:59:09 pm »

Hi all,  Got the 2.4ghz on saturday morning, the ariel on the reciever is only 3"  /  75mm long !! is that all it needs ?
Only the tip (about 2 cm) is the antenna, you cannot cut it and should not bend it, the rest is a coax. Depending on the brand you may be able to buy a longer set up if required.

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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 10:27:12 pm »

also try to get the antenna wire as high as possible in the superstructure as 2.4Ghz cannot pass through water as easily as the old 27/40Mhz
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 06:28:54 am »

Only the tip (about 2 cm) is the antenna, you cannot cut it and should not bend it, the rest is a coax. Depending on the brand you may be able to buy a longer set up if required.


That depends on the make - on an Orange RX (Spektrum) its just about 2 inches of flexible wire - no tip like on Spektrum. Still works as well with a similar range  :-))


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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 08:18:10 am »

......on an Orange RX (Spektrum) its just about 2 inches of flexible wire - no tip like on Spektrum. Still works as well with a similar range  :-))
See what you mean but it looks the same to me on most of their receivers..

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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 11:07:00 am »

The "tip" is still there and is still the active bit of the aerial even if, visually, there is nothing there to make it look different. 
As frequencies rise, wavelengths shorten.  Aerials are either the wavelength, or, if that is not practical, a nice simple fraction of that wavelength to take advantage of the harmonic effect. 
A 27MHz aerial, ideally, would be 12.22 metres long (speed of light, 330,000KM/S, divided by the frequency in Hz), but this is normally considered impractical.  In practice, they tend to be the right length for a 4th or 5th harmonic (just keep dividing the wavelength by 2 that number of times). 
On a 2.4GHz set, there is an extremely high frequency which gives a very short wavelength, and that active inch or so represents the actual tuned wavelength. 
The rest of the lead is a coax, intended to allow the signal into the radio while minimizing the chance of an interfering signal getting in while giving the chance of having the radio where you want it and the aerial where its going to work.  The downside of this is that some wanted signal is lost in the length, the longer, the more loss.  Another point is that the length of the shielded bit is fairly critical - that, too, is tuned to be a match to the frequency.
Thats why it pays to read the instructions and believe them.
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 12:00:45 pm »

This is the Orange Rx - I also have another make with similar aerial.  ok2  I'm pretty sure its only multi-strand wire.


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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 03:51:58 pm »

This is the Orange Rx - I also have another make with similar aerial.  ok2  I'm pretty sure its only multi-strand wire.


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Of course - a multi strand wire of the correct length without any extension to make life easier for siting and add a bit of loss.  Probably accounts for the reputation for performance of the Orange units.  No doubt there are, or will be, some with the right length of aerial inside the case.  Some will claim that they have "no aerial".
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Re: 27mhz to 2.4ghz
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2013, 05:21:43 pm »

Many thanks for all your replies.
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