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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #300 on: April 19, 2015, 09:25:59 pm »

Thanks for the support, almost half of the entire models planking is done now as I've pushing my limit this weekend to get it done!


Geoff


I use 2mm wide 0.5mm thick lime wood strips (1000mm long) from Cornwall Models, they cost 34p per strip. They come in a big postal tube , and require a light sand on the edges to finish it off. They vary slightly but the original planks were not all perfect and I've found that some slight variances actually help you in cutting in and fitting where you'd cut them in!


I use a graphite pencil to simulate caulking which are available from places like Colemans Stationary. I rub the pencil on both edges of the planks.


To glue them down I use Deluxe Rocket Card Glue which looks like PVA but sticks a lot better, it works like a cross between slow setting superglue and PVA. Once stuck down lightly sand the surface of the planked area
And you can seal it with your favourite sealing varnish.


Hope this helps.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #301 on: April 21, 2015, 10:30:20 pm »

😱😳😁Great planking job.So many people have no idea how much effort goes into planking Victorian ships.Your superstructure work looks fabulous.I am doing Polyphemus in Swiss Pear.Have a look at HobbyMill.com
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #302 on: April 23, 2015, 01:21:28 pm »

Hi Kayechuk


Glad you like it, it certainly feels like its worth it now, I wouldn't have said that earlier this year! {-)
I'll check out hobbymill.com for some wood for a couple of my future victorian projects- HMS Pegasus and RN Giovanni Bausan- not so much deck area to sort out!


The superstructure citidel are is now half planked and whilst I was waiting for the glue to completely dry I made two boat handling winches which sit either side of the generator room. I've modified some kit parts to create the winches and used the NMM plans to match them up. Hopefully pictures to come this Friday/Saturday. Starting to create the coaling winches which sit forward next to the funnel casing and forward intakes. These will be mainly the kit parts and these look closer to them than trying to scratch-build them.


I bought some I-section brass beams (2mm high, 0.75mm wide and 0.3mm thick) for the spar/boat deck to suppor the masses of ship's boats fitted to this class. Not cheap for 30cm lengths- £3.20 each and I needed four or five so ordered six!- can you see the RAF engineer in me ordering extra just incase! :o
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #303 on: April 23, 2015, 03:06:01 pm »

Like you more is better than less.There is always,some use in the future, for extra pieces.The admirals walk at the stern drove me crazy.Things are getting very pricey theses days.Most of my friends build plastic kits.They spend 80 dollars on the kit,and 300 on after markets to make them look more realistic😱
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #304 on: April 23, 2015, 09:01:29 pm »

Hi Nick,

I know it's a bit late but you might like to have a look at model railway rails. Not the track, just the rails. I needed a load to support the flying deck on Arquebuse and managed to get a load of discontinued at almost exactly the same section as you mentioned in 1m lengths. Easy to solder and rather cheap.

Tony  :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #305 on: April 23, 2015, 11:15:15 pm »

Now that is a good idea! It has a wider fange on the bottom, but this can either be ignored (infact adding surface area for soldering) or filed back. As it is quite soft, it will not be too difficult to process.

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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought-boat handling winches
« Reply #306 on: April 24, 2015, 08:15:26 pm »

Wow, lots to look at now, especially for future boats. :-))


As promised some photos of the boat handling winches built using a mixture of kit parts and plastic card and beams.


Planking going well both on deck and inside the superstructure.








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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #307 on: April 25, 2015, 04:00:41 pm »

Hi Nick,


Making really good progress with the decking - nightmare job! Looking forward to see how things are going at Wicksteed...


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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #308 on: May 11, 2015, 09:56:17 pm »

Hi James


Sorry for the late reply, been on a long course about being an aircraft supervisor with my recent promotion.
She is looking a lot better with a planked deck and now the details are being added, all the deck winches, ash chutes and skylights are in the process of being built up.
See you at Wicksteed


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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #309 on: May 12, 2015, 12:00:15 am »

Since all my friends build plane kits,may I ask what kind of work you do on aircraft.My friends dad has a 1949 Navion,converted to twin engine.Lots of fun flying in it. :embarrassed:
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #310 on: May 12, 2015, 10:45:47 pm »

Hi Kayechuk


I'm technically dual trade in the air force but originally way back in 2003 I joined up as an Airframe Fitter (or 'rigger'), since 2007 I have converted to Propulsion or engine fitter (nick-named Sooties or sumpies). Because the air force wanted dual trade we all became 'heavies' whilst the Electricians and Avionic Technicians became the 'lights'.
However with the recent promotion I'm in charge of both types but can only over sign heavies with limited over signing on lights!
I find it amazing how many ex-airforce members build model boats.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #311 on: May 13, 2015, 02:09:06 am »

Thanks so much.even though I only build ships,I have seen almost every main air museum in the USA,with my friends on road trips.Was in Oshkosh and flew in a 1929 Travel Air E-4000 open cockpit bi-plane.Incredible experience.May I ask what you what aircraft you work on?Just want to tell the guys.I am going to show them your reply,as they are very interested in the RAF.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #312 on: May 13, 2015, 09:17:47 pm »

Hi Kayechuk


The only bi-plane I've ever flown in was a 1930's de Havilland Tiger Moth as part of a birthday present experience flight- stunning but always amazed me how they navigated with a magnetic compass which bounced all over the place!
I can't tell you directly what I work on but I can give you clues! I work on the RAF's only swing wing fast jet! :}


The Prince George build is going well, I'm having to make four ash chutes and some engine room skylights, by the time I'm finished you won't be able to see the 12pdr guns in the superstructure citidel!
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #313 on: May 13, 2015, 09:33:30 pm »

It was always thus Nick, but seeing even part of the weapons through orifices, or behind other things can be interesting. Such detail adds depth, and remember, she will look all the batter on a display stand with such detail. I fully respect the 'It looks good from forty feet away' school, but when your model is sat on display, it is good to have a few baubles to catch the eye.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #314 on: May 14, 2015, 12:16:52 am »

Thank you very much my friend.I have been working on Polyphemus,with the much appreciated help of Ian Kennedy.Right now doing some restoration work for our local naval museum.Your build is really going great.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #315 on: February 10, 2016, 08:22:27 am »

Hi Nick
Your planked decks look great  :-)  :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #316 on: February 10, 2016, 10:38:13 am »

Hi Dreadnought


Thanks for your positive comment about the planking. :-))
I've learnt a lot from laying these planks and applied it to my HMS Humber and now my Dreadnought build.
In fact I've gone up a size on Dreadnought to 3mm wide planks, amazing the difference that 1mm has on coverage!
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #317 on: March 28, 2016, 08:50:38 pm »

 :-)) Your planking looks amazing.May I make a suggestion.Take a look at the lumber yard for model shipwrights.Really good prices.That where I purchase my wood stock.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #318 on: April 17, 2016, 05:14:17 pm »

Thanks Kayechuk


I'll keep an eye out for different types of wood in the future. Glad you like the decks, I'll be back on the Prince George after September when I return from Cyprus. Got to get the Dreadnought finished for Mayhem weekend. I've found some new pictures on eBay of her sister ship, Magnificent, from a few different angles that are quite helpful.


In the between time between this post and my previous I have bought some lovely 3D printed capstans from Shapeways to replace the white-metal versions. I bought another 1/96 pre-WW1 vessel off eBay thanks to Klunk who spotted it for me earlier this year, one of the few things missing were the gun barrels so another purchase from Shapeways were the fantastic x4 8inch gun barrels designed for the USS Maine but are the ones for a USS Olympia! Hopefully when I return from Holland I'll upload some pictures for everyone to see.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #319 on: April 17, 2016, 11:23:56 pm »

I tried a new supplier and purchased Swiss pear for my Polyphemus.Beautiful cut and quality. :-)) Have a look at Crown timber yard.Prices are very good.Keep up the incredible build :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #320 on: December 29, 2016, 09:41:57 pm »

Shocking news everyone!!! :o


I've restarted the Prince George by filling in the gaps I missed on my initial planking of the quarter deck and then completing the planking this time. Amazing how quick you can plank 2mm wide lime strip after all the practice with Humber, Dreadnought, and TF3 in rapid succession. I've learnt a lot from Dreadnought and in some ways perhaps I should have built her first but can't change that now
Now I just need to remember where I put everything- they were put safely away so I wasn't tempted to use any fittings in any other projects I've been building recently.
Pictures will be shortly uploaded... :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #321 on: December 29, 2016, 09:49:21 pm »

Welcome back Prince George.  I had wondered what had happened to her as you were getting on so well.
1/96 scale deck planking can be a long and arduous process, the first 25% can be fun as you watch the effect gradually spread across the deck, but never look beyond to how much there is still to do as that route leads to madness.

I really love the Majestic Class.  Really imposing ship bristling with gun barrels and tons of fine detail.
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« Reply #322 on: December 29, 2016, 10:30:56 pm »

Shocking news everyone!!! :o

That's not shocking Nick, that's excellent news. Looking forward to more of the same...

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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #323 on: January 01, 2017, 07:47:57 pm »


Hi everyone


A picture of my progress so far...


Planking is complete on the quarter deck and detail is being added in the form of cowl vents, riding bitts and various hatches. Getting on nicely now,



(https://postimg.org/image/s2go35rgz/)
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« Reply #324 on: January 02, 2017, 07:00:31 pm »

Good show Nick! Excellent planking. I can see what the ring is now on deck, it's a blast proof area under the muzzles to prevent scorching the planks.

Looking forward to more updates eagerly.
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