Model Boat Mayhem - Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 [16] 17 18 19 20 21   Go Down

Author Topic: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.  (Read 111489 times)

Peter Fitness

  • Global Moderator
  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6,761
  • Location: Wyrallah, near Lismore NSW Australia
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #375 on: November 14, 2014, 09:32:53 PM »

It's looking great Neil, immaculate work as usual. :-))


Peter.
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #376 on: November 14, 2014, 09:39:58 PM »

cheers Peter........slow progress on this one I'm afraid................never built a ferry before..........all new to me. neil.
Logged

carlmt

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,301
  • Figurin' it out........slowly!!!
  • Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
    • Linkspan Models
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #377 on: November 14, 2014, 10:27:20 PM »

Call that slow progress Niel? You should see my efforts on the Free Enterprise ferry...........
 
Lovely work you have done there mind.......I am enjoying this tremendously.

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #378 on: November 14, 2014, 10:47:10 PM »

cheers Carl.........it is slow by my past builds.........but hopefully might get going a bit more once these ramps have been located and the whole thing is settled......a bit of rejigging and designing for them to fit properly. neil.
Logged

Capt Podge

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,989
  • Location: Blyth, Northumberland
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #379 on: November 14, 2014, 11:27:39 PM »

Hi Neil, what's the orange coloured material you're using on the ramps ? (just curious) :D
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
Logged
Pop top campervan needed

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #380 on: November 14, 2014, 11:37:52 PM »

hi Ray,
if you look on Models by design web site at the mouldings for the Clyde class lifeboat, you'll see he advertises a "Y" class rib to go with the Clyde mouldings.....the boat is actually an early D class rib with the flat nose............I made the tooling for it to be vac formed along with the moulds for the Clyde..........and the orange plasticard I am using are the remnants of 16 D class ribs that I had moulded at Blackpool and the Fylde college 4 years ago.........it's just normal HIPS (high impact polystyrene.............similar to ABS)but I bought it ready coloured orange to help painting the ribs afterwards.

some one really should tell Andy Grigg that it is a D class boat and not a Y class.................4.5 inches too long for a Y and a bit misleading to those wanting one for their Tamar or other fast lifeboat, lol {-) {-) {-)
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #381 on: November 16, 2014, 12:44:37 AM »

all moulds for the two different sized ramps are now in their mould boxes and ready for the first halves of rubber to be poured in........that'll come later today.
Logged

carlmt

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,301
  • Figurin' it out........slowly!!!
  • Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
    • Linkspan Models
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #382 on: November 16, 2014, 10:53:28 AM »

Niel - Quick question if I may?
 
What do you use as a 'separator' or 'barrier' for the two halves of the mould?  What I mean is, what product is used to prevent the rubber from sticking to the plasticene and the component?
Cheers
Carl

derekwarner

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,890
  • Location: Wollongong Australia
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #383 on: November 16, 2014, 12:19:39 PM »

Goodness Carl....... %)....he used McEWANS  CHAMPION Beer  as the release agent.......{-) ...... Derek
Logged
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #384 on: November 16, 2014, 12:38:12 PM »

and by gum it's tastey too................

carl.................I used to use a spray release agent that I bought from Tiranti's in Reading, but for some reason they stopped supplying it because they said that Royal mail and other couriers wouldn't transport it.............but I have my own ideas.........the last two batches I bought, wouldn't allow separation of the rubber and I lost two moulds...........but the guy at Tiranti's told me that Vaseline was a perfect release agent.............and for the past few years have been using that.............smeared on my fingers and thinly worked into the rubber before the second layer of mould added and it works better than any spray release agent I ever used.

the rubber doesn't stick to the plasticene or the master.........it will only stick to something of like.......i.e. more silicon rubber
Logged

carlmt

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,301
  • Figurin' it out........slowly!!!
  • Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
    • Linkspan Models
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #385 on: November 16, 2014, 04:20:11 PM »

Thanks for that Neil - I had better explain to my better half why there is a pot of vaseline in the workshop before she finds it!!!!!!!

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #386 on: November 20, 2014, 07:56:38 PM »

well, the RTV rubber moulds turned out well except for the stern ramp mould............this didn't go too well..main reason was that when mixing the rubber and catalyst I tend to put a very small amount of tap water into the mix.........this rubber best cures when in a moist warm atmosophere such as an airing cupboard with emersion tank (an air drying room for our US cousins).......and because I don't have one, I asked the tech guys at Tiranti's ( font of all knowledge moulding wise) what I could do.........add a little water....similar amount to the catalyst to help curing.......sadly this time the water didn't mix too well, and left air bubbles in the area of the lattice work on the ramp.................so had to repair it.
 I cut some strips of plasticard and inserted it into the mould to make a grid pattern, and then mixed a little rubber and repaired the air holes ......turned out ok, but would have been better first time round, lol.....

 an then I cast a mould in polyurethane resin..............seemed to turn out ok, and with a little sanding they'll look a whole lot better.
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #387 on: November 20, 2014, 08:03:19 PM »

once the moulds had been repaired I cut out the air release tracks in them for ease of moulding.


and then finally some moulds were cast.....they turned out quite well, with minor blow holes to one of the mouldings.......second ones should be better as I can rectify where they went wrong
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #388 on: November 20, 2014, 08:22:45 PM »

Finally I got to grips with the rebates for the bottom brackets to the ramps.

 first I marked out and then drilled around the area to be cut out......then I reamed out between the line of drill holes.

 Using a chisel I drove down from the deck and cut out the grp.

 Finally cutting the rebate back, square and flat with my trusty vibro file to fit the brackets in.
Logged

cos918

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,107
  • Location: Abingdon
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #389 on: November 20, 2014, 09:27:50 PM »

Hi
the ferry is looking real good and is coming on very well. Can I ask what the advantage of the resin ramp over the plastic card master ?

john
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #390 on: November 20, 2014, 10:54:03 PM »

Hi John,

simple reason really, My friend Andrew who originally supplied the plugs for me to mould the boat, wants to build a model, and so does his friend............and as such I said it would make the moulds for him to reproduce his fittings..........in as much, a semi kit of her would be built........and also two of the wider ramps are needed per boat........easier and more time saving to make a mould from one ramp than make two ramps.
neil.
Logged

cos918

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,107
  • Location: Abingdon
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #391 on: November 21, 2014, 06:00:41 PM »

Thanks . Makes sense . Over winter I am hoping to re-do the ramp on my ferry. I am going to be using brass and copper clad sheet

john
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #392 on: November 21, 2014, 09:41:27 PM »

that sounds very interesting John..........hope you put some photos on. neil.
Logged

Tim B.

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 182
  • Location: Oakland California
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #393 on: November 26, 2014, 03:57:12 PM »

This be True and Comprehensive model making at it's best, everthing designed and made by the builder ~
 
Not oft found these days !
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #394 on: November 26, 2014, 10:11:17 PM »

thanks tim................I try my best, lol.
Logged

thething84

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 188
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Newmarket, Suffolk
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #395 on: November 27, 2014, 12:13:52 AM »

looking great. think i have just spent about and hour or more flicking through your progress from the beginning. I only hope to make something which is near this level of modelling one day.
 
Well done will continue watching your progress.
 
James
Logged
If it ain't broke! Fix it anyway!

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #396 on: November 27, 2014, 12:16:23 AM »

thanks James. :-))

neil.
Logged

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #397 on: December 12, 2014, 04:18:44 PM »

I have been working slowly on the Jupiter......have made a start on the main anchor windlass.......made totally from  plasticard and milliput..........needs some sanding to the main power unit and then the warp drums and the anchor drums and brakes doing.

I also couldn't resist bringing into the mix another lifeboat.........I picked up the Alanger Oakley class boat at 1:48 scale some years ago and it sat in my workshop since.........so today decided to dig it out and motorise it, using servo motors........been fitting the prop shafts which I will run a little thread on lifeboats shortly..........but think it will look nice on the low loader as deck cargo on the Jupiter..........just couldn't resist, lol
Logged

Tug-Kenny

  • Global Moderator
  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,717
  • Location: Newport. S Wales
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #398 on: December 12, 2014, 04:47:19 PM »


Very nice.      :-))

ken

Logged
Despite the high cost of living   .......... It remains popular

Neil

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,451
  • Location: near Fleetwood
Re: JUPITER, A Caledonian MacBrayne Ferry....My new project.
« Reply #399 on: December 12, 2014, 05:05:01 PM »

cheers Ken.............it's been 50 years since I made a plastic kit and am thoroughly enjoying it. neil. :-)) :-))
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 [16] 17 18 19 20 21   Go Up